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Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by grecy »

vetinari wrote: post #116
tomp wrote: post #103

> Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind. > Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind I'm starting to like the business model of buying the product more and more. There was a recent t…

In Android, it is not mandatory to use Google apps - you can use your favorite browser, mail or maps instead of the Google ones. Firefox, Nine or Here, for example.

Pfft. I bought a super cheap Android phone, and can't even download a single app without signing up for a google account!

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by 0x4a42 »

heedlessly2 wrote: post #235
Sean1708 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikipedia says that Windows accounts for well over 70% of all desktop use[0], I personally wouldn't call that a 3-way split. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...

but what profit % do they have? Android dominates mobile OS usage, but iOS has equal profits if not greater than Android

Microsoft is making billions dollars of profit from Android's devices just with their patents licensing:

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/microsoft_on_the_issues/...

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by mcv »

raesene6 wrote: post #126
tomp wrote: post #103

> Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind. > Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind I'm starting to like the business model of buying the product more and more. There was a recent t…

I agree, the good thing about Apple and Microsoft is I know what they want to sell me. Apple want me to buy relatively expensive devices on a regular basis and ideally a cloud subscription. Microsoft want me to buy subscriptions to their cloud services and ideally devices running their OS. In both cases the value for them is fairly clear and they have limited incentives to do anything that might jepordise those reven…

And yet, Apple has been pushing me in a direction I don't want to go with their recent OS X versions. I paid a lot of money for my mackbook and was quite happy with Lion, but was recently forced to upgrade because apparently Lion is way too out of date.

So now I'm on Sierra, and I absolutely hate it. I thought it'd mostly just be uglier, but it bugs me with updates I don't want or need but am not allowed to ignore. And I hate their in-your-face notifications blocking an important part of my screen. (How about at the bottom next to the dock? Or in the menu bar? Just not over an active working window.)

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by tomsmeding »

mcv wrote: post #253
raesene6 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, the good thing about Apple and Microsoft is I know what they want to sell me. Apple want me to buy relatively expensive devices on a regular basis and ideally a cloud subscription. Microsoft want me to buy subscriptions to their cloud services and ideally devices running their OS. In both cases the value for them is fairly clear and they have limited incentives to do anything that might jepordise those reven…

And yet, Apple has been pushing me in a direction I don't want to go with their recent OS X versions. I paid a lot of money for my mackbook and was quite happy with Lion, but was recently forced to upgrade because apparently Lion is way too out of date. So now I'm on Sierra, and I absolutely hate it. I thought it'd mostly just be uglier, but it bugs me with updates I don't want or need but am not allowed to ignore. A…

Which notifications are you talking about? I have no such experience using Sierra.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by mcv »

Sean1708 wrote: post #172
raesene6 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What markets is it that you feel Microsoft have a monopoly in? Desktop/Laptops is now a 3-way split between MS, Apple and Google with chromebooks. Mobile is a split between Apple and Google with MS out of it. Cloud is Amazon out in front with MS in second place. Office is the one area where MS could be considered to have a monopoly but even there I think cloud players are gaining ground and also (AFAIK) there's no ad…

Wikipedia says that Windows accounts for well over 70% of all desktop use[0], I personally wouldn't call that a 3-way split. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...

I only have a Windows PC for gaming. I'd gladly switch to Linux if all games were also available there. (I tried wine and stuff like that ages ago, but that was just a pain.) Windows has effectively a monopoly on gaming PCs.

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Post by bigtones »

nu11p01n73R wrote: post #51
mullsork wrote: post #7

Sort of off topic but what has happened to the web design team at Apple? Their landing pages used to be extremely pleasant to read but by now I often struggle to read their headlines. The blurred background with text on top is not easy on my eyes at all. Perhaps my eyes are starting to go bad... Their page for the new iPhone had the same issues. In my opinion their web designs has gone down hill this year.

Took some time to realise that "Available 9.25" meant 25th September. The box looked more like a disabled button.

They even change date formats within the same section of the website, so no consistency at all. They use a slash in their date "9/25" for a Beats offer at the bottom of https://www.apple.com/mac/

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by Jgrubb »

mcv wrote: post #253
raesene6 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, the good thing about Apple and Microsoft is I know what they want to sell me. Apple want me to buy relatively expensive devices on a regular basis and ideally a cloud subscription. Microsoft want me to buy subscriptions to their cloud services and ideally devices running their OS. In both cases the value for them is fairly clear and they have limited incentives to do anything that might jepordise those reven…

And yet, Apple has been pushing me in a direction I don't want to go with their recent OS X versions. I paid a lot of money for my mackbook and was quite happy with Lion, but was recently forced to upgrade because apparently Lion is way too out of date. So now I'm on Sierra, and I absolutely hate it. I thought it'd mostly just be uglier, but it bugs me with updates I don't want or need but am not allowed to ignore. A…

More or less hopelessly entrenched in the Apple ecosystem here, but I totally agree with you. The non-stop annoying notifications was one of the main bullet points that I listed when leaving Windows 10 years ago, and now they've finally found me again..

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by criddell »

heedlessly2 wrote: post #235
Sean1708 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikipedia says that Windows accounts for well over 70% of all desktop use[0], I personally wouldn't call that a 3-way split. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...

but what profit % do they have? Android dominates mobile OS usage, but iOS has equal profits if not greater than Android

How is Android profit calculated? Does it include the value of the data collected with it? How do you calculate iOS profits? Can you separate the value of the hardware from the software?

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by lern_too_spel »

tomp wrote: post #103

> Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind. > Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind I'm starting to like the business model of buying the product more and more. There was a recent t…

Nothing prevents you from using a competitor's core apps on Android. Those apps could be even better at stopping tracking than Apple's. On iOS, you're stuck with whatever maps or browser Apple decrees.
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