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Re: iPhone X

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Post by arkades »

codeflo wrote: post #196
AaronFriel wrote: post #166

I wonder if the tech team involved with Face ID factored the birthday paradox into their security factor. They touted a "1 in 1,000,000" chance that someone else's face unlocks one's iPhone X. Well, with the birthday paradox, let's say there were, say, exactly 1179 people in the Steve Jobs Auditorium and they all had iPhone Xs. That's 694,431 unique pairs of people, and there would be roughly a 50% chance of two of t…

I'm not saying 1 in 1,000,000 is great, but I don't see how the birthday paradox applies. Assume that I want to analyse whether face unlock is secure enough for me -- why is the chance that anyone else's phone gets unlocked by someone else's face even relevant?

Because if you're an actor with a lot of faces (eg, state level actor with a face db) to feed it, and you're sweeping large numbers of phones rather than trying to hit one in particular, this suggests they'd have an easier time than it sounds like when you're considering it in the private use context.

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Post by TheAnimus »

aecorredor wrote: post #68
chris_7 wrote: post #13

I unlock my phone in my pocket with Touch ID all the time - ready to go and on the home screen by the time I've flipped it around in my hand. Feels like a straight downgrade in usability. also, some engineer at apple had to continuously grow a beard to test this

Ok, the guy demoing the iPhone X just had to switch to the backup phone because the Face ID on the first one didn't work quite smoothly.

I had this feature on my 950 (Windows Phone). It was poor.

Slower and more error prone. Environmental changes such as extreme lighting (being outside) or wearing sunglasses stopped it from working.

Windows Hello and compatible webcams work really well in a stable desktop environment mind. I've just rolled them out across my firm.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by yladiz »

balls187 wrote: post #174

$1000 for higher fidelity snapchat features. I love my iphone camera, and if the upgrade program isn't too terrible, I will get the iPhoneX, but call me underwhelmed. The implementation of faceID seems really poorly thought out. I can unlock my phone, and navigate it before focusing my attention on it. I feel like "attention to unlock" is going to cause an increase in distracted driver related incidents.

> I feel like "attention to unlock" is going to cause an increase in distracted driver related incidents.

Aren't you not supposed to use your phone when driving, and it is specifically against the law to do so in a lot of places? In any case, it's as distracting as using your phone currently because it seems that it doesn't have to be pointed directly in front of your face, as long as it gets a decent look at it.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by jamesrcole »

Karunamon wrote: post #233

I really don't see the extra $300 justification between this and the regular iPhone 8. A slightly better screen and better camera with otherwise similar specs. Edge to edge and face scanning emojis are neat , but I just can't justify that kind of spend for it. That, and I'm not all that jazzed about Face ID. Seems less secure than touch.

> between this and the regular iPhone 8. A slightly better screen ... with otherwise similar specs

The screen is a fair bit larger

Re: iPhone X

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Post by benbayard »

protomyth wrote: post #64

I fail to see how this Face ID will work in a North Dakota winter or on the ski slope. // And they had a demo failure on their new unlock and swipe up for home.

the demo failure was because the phone had been rebooted, which requires a passcode. Certainly not ideal, but it's not a because faceID is a failure.

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Post by Hates_ »

RayVR wrote: post #238

I can't wait for someone to pick up my phone, point it at my face and have it unlock. Hope it has a "User sleeping, can't unlock" feature.

Yeah, seems that it needs your attention to work. So eyes closed or looking away wont unlock it.

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Post by alkonaut »

Can't help wondering what the next model will be called given what a dead end "X" is.

After OS X they never went to 11. They codenamed the 10.N versions but it doesn't seem likely with a "iPhone X 10.2 mushroom badger"-type name.

Best guess: they'll just call it the iPhone next year. Like some other products they'll just use the model year to distinguish. Guessing we won't even see the "iPhone XS", it'll just be "iPhone (2018)".

Re: iPhone X

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Post by basch »

xtracerx wrote: post #134
iClaudiusX wrote: post #59

Probably not a good sign that FaceID failed on stage for Craig on his first try (had to use a passcode to log in) during the demo.

I don't think it failed, it just said you had to use passcode on first login after restart, just like the touchID

what does your touch id do if you have doritos on your thumb, or your phone in the shower too long?

(it asks for your pin)

Re: iPhone X

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Post by dolguldur »

RayVR wrote: post #243

Given how painfully slow wireless charging is, I'd prefer they go for the rapid charging feature. May not be as sexy but it's way more useful.

Fast charging was listed as a feature
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