Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor • Hacker News Board

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by DamnYuppie » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 4:49 PM UTC

EADGBE wrote: post #228

partiallypro wrote: post #212

My issue with Amazon lately isn't just the prices no longer being the lowest, it's that a big chunk of their products are counterfeits. I honestly have no idea how they haven't tamped down on that. If I shop at Wal-Mart, Target, Footlocker, etc, etc I know the products I buy aren't going to be fakes; no so with Amazon. I have started buying less stuff on there after a number of products have come back as fakes. I use…

What kinds of things are you buying where counterfeits are a problem? Genuinely intrigued.

A few that I have experienced recently that have really turned me off of Amazon.

- Charging cables, iOS and Android. - Memory cards, were supposed to be san disk but obviously were fake and didn't work well. - GoPro batteries.

I am pretty much 100% skeptical of anything I buy on Amazon now, which is why I have drastically cut back my purchasing from them. Like most who are posting here I mostly go to Walmart and Costco or look for local retailers for my needs.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by blacksmith_tb » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 5:35 PM UTC

4ad wrote: post #214

ithkuil wrote: post #171

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If it was a ceramic knife, would it still make sense for a customer to figure out how to sharpen one of those?

No, I would expect a ceramic knife to be sharp and I would expect it to remain sharp throughout its life.

Unfortunately that's not possible, ceramic knives dull differently (the accumulate lots of tiny nicks or chips along the edge), but you can certainly sharpen them on a diamond stone, or with a dedicated sharpener, or in some cases send them back to the manufacturer[1].

1: http://www.kyoceraknife.com/how-to-sharpen-ceramic-knives.ht...

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by EADGBE » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 5:49 PM UTC

_cvsn wrote: post #243

EADGBE wrote: post #228

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What kinds of things are you buying where counterfeits are a problem? Genuinely intrigued.

Everything. Just like the root poster, I am disgusted by clusters of knockoffs and increasingly more weary of seeing them. Just about anything common you run across on Amazon is probably not original (is there such a thing as an uncommon product these days?) The worst part is that I can't get myself to trust any reviews - good or bad - which was my go-to for feeling assured about a purchase. A knockoff competitor may…

Sounds like you know exactly which kind of sprinkler head you need, but not a wire brush.

After seeing some other replies, I think we use Amazon differently.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by ben174 » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 5:53 PM UTC

snarfy wrote: post #152

"Order within the next 5 hours and receive free next day shipping". Hmm. OK. click "Please review your order. $8.99 for next day shipping or free two day shipping." Uh, OK. 'Check two day shipping. Submit' "Your order has been placed. Delivery date - 5 days from now"

This happens so often to me. I'll be expecting a package one day and 8pm rolls around and I check the order status and it says 'expected delivery: tomorrow' - when I was sure the delivery was today at the time I placed the order.

It makes me feel like I'm going crazy, but I'm sure there's some sort of bug during the checkout process which switches me back to two-day shipping after I've selected one-day.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by reaperducer » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 6:32 PM UTC

AlexandrB wrote: post #210

ikurei wrote: post #134

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So you just helped continue the fraud? Things aren't gonna improve by complaining on HN.

It's not his job to fix Amazon's fraud issues. Amazon has billions of dollars at its disposal, it should invest some in quality control.

Your statement assumes that Amazon isn't investing anything in quality control. If you have evidence of this, please post it. Otherwise, you're just a troll.

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Post by jumpkickhit » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 6:41 PM UTC

gcb0 wrote: post #101

jumpkickhit wrote: post #99

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I've fallen for Newegg's slightly lower prices a few times, last two new items i ordered, both were opened up. 2nd one missing crucial parts that someone poked all of them out through the bag inside of the device's box. 2nd item was through a reseller though. I don't use Amazon too often these days, but Newegg's lost me from these last few experiences. Their support basically said "meh" about both cases.

you missed the item condition? on Amazon it's the same if you buy from anything that doesn't say "sold and shipped by amazon". quality and return policy is a crapfest.

Condition was listed as "new", via Newegg. Both times.

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Post by neverminder » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 7:14 PM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #255

AlexandrB wrote: post #210

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It's not his job to fix Amazon's fraud issues. Amazon has billions of dollars at its disposal, it should invest some in quality control.

Your statement assumes that Amazon isn't investing anything in quality control. If you have evidence of this, please post it. Otherwise, you're just a troll.

I could probably write a script in 5 minutes that would scan the database and pull the products with 5 star only reviews like this one. No matter how good a product is somebody will always be unhappy with it because people are people and that's normal. We can't afford to be that naive to believe in a 5 star only product because that is the actual trolling.

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Post by awkwarddaturtle » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 7:33 PM UTC

A few years ago, the word on the street was that bezos agreed to boost prices to reward the longtime shareholders/hedge funds/etc. And as expected, the prices on amazon have noticeably increased and the shares are at all-time highs.

Amazon is large enough now that they have a "captive market".

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Post by mikestew » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 7:46 PM UTC

neverminder wrote: post #257

reaperducer wrote: post #255

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Your statement assumes that Amazon isn't investing anything in quality control. If you have evidence of this, please post it. Otherwise, you're just a troll.

I could probably write a script in 5 minutes that would scan the database and pull the products with 5 star only reviews like this one. No matter how good a product is somebody will always be unhappy with it because people are people and that's normal. We can't afford to be that naive to believe in a 5 star only product because that is the actual trolling.

No matter how good a product is somebody will always be unhappy with it

If nothing else, someone almost without fail will leave a one-star review that has nothing to do with the item itself. "Package was damaged, one star." "UPS left it in the rain..." If Jesus asked for reviews at Mount Olive (the loaves and fishes thing), there'd be a one-star review somewhere, "fish was a little dry, and I don't like sourdough bread. Better miracles at Joe's House of Wonder, one star." (Though I guess even in reality he got one star from the Pharisees: "shouldn't be doing miracles on Sabbath; one star.") Nothing and nobody, even Jesus, gets nothing but five star reviews.

IOW, your suggestion would be as good as anything Amazon has right now.

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Post by fusiongyro » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 7:55 PM UTC

corobo wrote: post #245

fusiongyro wrote: post #198

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Sure, but money isn't quantum physics. If he doesn't spend any money on Amazon or any other online retailer, how are they monetizing his time on the site?

They see he likes products x y and z. Another 20 customers like products x and y, so nudge them towards buying product z

No, what they see is that he looked at x, y and z and didn't buy anything. Why would it nudge the next guy towards z? "Other people who did not convert also did not convert after seeing THIS!"?