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Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Pity that they don't open source it. I've gone through multiple image editors on Linux, and none of them have the simplicity of Paint. The layout and functionality is incredibly intuitive. You drop someone into Paint, and even if they've never seen it before, they can start doing stuff within a minute or so. You drop the same person into GIMP, and five minutes later they're still trying to figure out how the hell to…

You may also try Krita - I think it's pretty well done.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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> And yes, I still miss my 1/8" jack on my iphone. Every single day. Agree. I bought an iPhone 7 and now I never listen to music or podcasts with it, a very unexpected side effect of not having a headphone jack.

Why would you buy a phone without an earphone jack? Knock on wood that's something I'd never agree to do :-)

It was a mistake. I sometimes think about "upgrading" (downgrading) to a two year old iPhone 6s to get a headphone jack again but it is not available in 256gb.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Is Kitra the best alternative? https://krita.org/en/ This is an opportunity for open source options to get a lot more users.

Krita is an alternative to MS Paint in the same way that operating a railway network is an alternative to driving a bicycle: it does much more with far greater hardware, software, user effort and user experience requirements. Additionally, the specific focus on high-end painting using a tablet means that emulating MS Paint with pixel-perfect drawing, crisp shapes and palettes has halfhearted support or needs clever w…

> Krita is an alternative to MS Paint in the same way that operating a railway network is an alternative to driving a bicycle

I think that is too harsh. Although Krita can do more than Paint the user-experience is pretty well done and it also works for basic tasks providing useful defaults.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Pity that they don't open source it. I've gone through multiple image editors on Linux, and none of them have the simplicity of Paint. The layout and functionality is incredibly intuitive. You drop someone into Paint, and even if they've never seen it before, they can start doing stuff within a minute or so. You drop the same person into GIMP, and five minutes later they're still trying to figure out how the hell to…

An identical open source Paint re-implementation is available on ReactOS, the free open Windows re-implementation: http://www.ReactOS.org You can download it from the package manager, and use it on Windows or Wine too. (Maybe WineHQ ships it as well)

How stable is ReactOS, and does it have a fairly good set of features for a desktop OS? Had read about it earlier, never tried it out.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Doesn't Windows include both the old calculator and the new calculator? I'm on Windows 8 and I have both.

10 yanks away calc.exe and replaces it with the metro version. You have to grab an old copy if you want the original back.

I wonder if you could get into legal trouble if you start to re-distribute calc.exe from older Windows version, as a free download. Probably yes, but it would look so ridiculous if MS lawyers would go after a random person doing that.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Perhaps similar to Notepad, which has been more or less feature-complete since Windows 2000 or so. I guess it is also internally "deprecated", but will continue to be shipped for quite a while. Microsoft doesn't tend to break such things. In Paint's case, I'd guess the most that will happen is that it will vanish from the Start menu, but the executable will still be there.

Notepad needs support for unix style line endings to be able to function as a basic text editor. As it stands I always install notepad++.

Notepad++ is pretty good, I've used it, both for programming and general text editing.

See my comment about Metapad in this thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14840791

It supports both Unix and DOS/Windows line endings (LF and CR+LF). Also a few other options.

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Doesn't Windows include both the old calculator and the new calculator? I'm on Windows 8 and I have both.

>>I'm on Windows 8 Genuinely curious, why?

Not him, but I would have stayed on 8.1 too if it weren't for processor support. The only annoying thing about it is the start menu, which i only use for maybe 10sec/month. It's faster than win7 and has a bunch of features I would miss, and compared to 10 it's not as bloated with non-win32 apps with less functionality for everything, tracking that you can turn off, and all the other win10 stuff you've heard already.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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You might be interested in switching to Greenshot. The workflows that you described will go much quicker since it pops up a menu of quick actions to take after you press Print Scrn. For screenshots that you want to review later, you just tell Greenshot to save directly to a file that it automatically names with a timestamp. To do quick edits, you can open your screenshot in the built-in editor. Or, you can open them…

It took me a few minutes to compose the same reply. Try Greenshot: http://getgreenshot.org/ It's open-source, no-nonsense, free software. It takes your 9 keystrokes plus multiple clicks to crop down to one key: PrtScn. The built-in image editor is optimized for the things that you need to do with screenshots. Here's a quick guide I threw together: https://i.imgur.com/tcpZjG0.png Yeah, it was a bit of a mind-bender ed…

>Yeah, it was a bit of a mind-bender editing a screenshot of the screenshot editor with the screenshot editor...

Ha ha, I had the same thought just now, after trying out the (plain) PrintScreen command in DanBC's comment here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14839229

Before that, I'd always used just Alt-PrintScreen to take a screenshot of only a specific window, not the whole screen.

So, to try it, I arranged a few app windows in cascaded style (including Paint itself), then did PrintScreen, then pasted the screenshot of Paint (plus other apps) into Paint ...

Who GNU that ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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An identical open source Paint re-implementation is available on ReactOS, the free open Windows re-implementation: http://www.ReactOS.org You can download it from the package manager, and use it on Windows or Wine too. (Maybe WineHQ ships it as well)

How stable is ReactOS, and does it have a fairly good set of features for a desktop OS? Had read about it earlier, never tried it out.

ReactOS may have its issues, but the (Ms)Paint implementation in ReactOS that frik is talking about is pretty stable. And open-source: https://svn.reactos.org/svn/reactos/trunk/reactos/base/appli...

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Agreed! Paint was the only Microsoft product that I actually loved.

They did the same thing with the calculator, turning what is probably the simplest app on the entire computer into a Metro-ified flat-design-meme store-dependent mess for absolutely no benefit.

Some time ago someone recommended SpeedCrunch to me for calculator stuff and I use it all the time now. It's a little bit less intuitive since it takes a syntax instead of presenting buttons, but it does a ton more.
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