Google relaunches Glass for businesses • Hacker News Board

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by NamTaf » Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 1:02 AM UTC

This is precisely the application I first imagined when I saw it. Being able to pull up exploded views of an assembly, having reference information for something you've got both hands inside, etc. is invaluable.

I can't count the number of times I've had to extract both my arms from inside a machine (in doing so losing the information of where precisely i'm holding stuff and the bearings that provides you), wipe off all the grease, dust, grime, etc., thumb through a pile of papers that still get dirty and then mentally translate a 2D drawing to what I'm working on, only to then lose my place and have to work it all out again. Having something voice controlled and right there in front of my eyes would be invaluable.

Industry really is the perfect environment for this. Safety issues notwithstanding (which you can work through), it's really the best application of this technology and you can quickly quantify a RoI from its implementation.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by beachy » Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 1:53 AM UTC

oliv__ wrote: post #71

lallysingh wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the glamor. If you started on the manufacturing side, it wouldn't have any caché when walking down the street. But if you started with a bunch of models on a runway wearing these, you would. They tried going lux consumer and failed. But if they went the manufacturing route first, they would've burned any chance of the other.

I don't agree. They could've used the manufacturing side to enhance the tech, get the components to a cheaper price point, maybe even slim down the whole thing and then when they felt ready to enter the consumer market, spin it off as something new under another consumer-only brand.

Or they could have let someone else take all of the "glasshole" flak, then arrived after that with a trusted, safe, Google product that addressed the concerns.

As they say, you can spot the pioneers because they're the ones with the arrows sticking out of their backs.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by smegel » Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 2:43 AM UTC

losvedir wrote: post #35

aresant wrote: post #9

This is so !@%!@ cool. Check out the A/B test of a technician with / without the software referenced in the article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gXuZp25f0 Then here's a video that gives a sense of the software's interface: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HOHNECW20 Very workflow oriented with nice communication and lookup features. This is the kind of small optimization stuff that is going to be revolutionary…

Wait, isn't that the same person in both videos? In that case, this is just a marketing spot demonstrating how it "could" work, not an "A/B test".

"A/B test" was clearly the wrong phrase yes, but I don't see how that reduces it to a "marketing spot". Demonstrating a products effectiveness through a meaningful comparison that shows it actually working in practice is a fair representation.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by projektfu » Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 3:05 AM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #88

tqi wrote: post #56

For the manufacturing example, why is this better than having a simple 7-10 inch tablet? For the doctor example, why is this better than a simple body cam, or even a camera that is wall or desk mounted?

> For the manufacturing example, why is this better than having a simple 7-10 inch tablet? Hands-free operation. Honestly, I'd love to use it all the time, instead of my smartphone. There are so many cases in which you want to have the screen in your FOV, but your hands free, not just at work... > For the doctor example, why is this better than a simple body cam, or even a camera that is wall or desk mounted? It prob…

It's nice to have a camera that follows your perspective, because you might need two hands to be able to see what you want. For example, if you're parting someone's hair or looking into their mouth with a tongue depressor.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by xbmcuser » Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 3:07 AM UTC

tpeo wrote: post #183

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glass isn't a consumer product either, it is just a dev kit.

I think he meant that Glass was a dev kit, which is fair enough. But it intended to be eventually released as a consumer product. Somewhere along that path, the idea lost it's charm to the execs at Google.

The tech was not ready for consumer glass yet going the business root will keep it alive. in 5 years it has a better camera processor and larger battery. Now I expect it to permeate into a consumer product organically in the next 10 years as the tech keeps improving and it is adopted for other stuff. I would love to have something like this while watching sports in the stadium where I could see live stats. With 5G internet, machine learning/AI it is something that will be possible. Something that you see as the view of a robot in movies like terminator. By then most of the 20-25 year olds will be the facebook generation who have been monitored all their lives in different ways and wont have the same privacy concerns.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by pessimizer » Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 3:10 AM UTC

This was completely predictable, and what everyone suggested as Glass failed for consumers; the fact that they're doing this now doesn't necessarily represent any success or particular efficaciousness discovered during the pilot programs. The fact that it took this long to roll out and announce publicly is a bad sign, though. They may have just run out of time, and were forced from above to make their best try at it.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by mgamache » Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 3:29 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #227

A few questions: - Can only businesses buy Glass? - What is the pricing model? Is this sold as a product, or is it paid for as a subscription service? - Will there be a "play store" equivalent for software for Glass?

it will be through VARs (there is no play store).

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by mgamache » Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 3:32 AM UTC

projektfu wrote: post #254

TeMPOraL wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For the manufacturing example, why is this better than having a simple 7-10 inch tablet? Hands-free operation. Honestly, I'd love to use it all the time, instead of my smartphone. There are so many cases in which you want to have the screen in your FOV, but your hands free, not just at work... > For the doctor example, why is this better than a simple body cam, or even a camera that is wall or desk mounted? It prob…

It's nice to have a camera that follows your perspective, because you might need two hands to be able to see what you want. For example, if you're parting someone's hair or looking into their mouth with a tongue depressor.

hard to overstate the importance of POV for some applications (including remote medicine).

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by dfee » Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 4:36 AM UTC

I was an early member of Pristine (the Google Glass company that Upskill recently acquired) where I began as a developer, and then landed our first paid deal at the end of 2014.

We used to buy the glasses for $1500 a piece and had a probably 50 pairs of them lying around by early 2015.

The engineering team was great - while I was there it felt like we were flying blind wrt Google’s official support. From a business perspective, I’m not sure product market fit was really ever achieved, though after I left the company expanded its horizons beyond healthcare / telemedicine.

Good luck to Upskill :)

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by aqsheehy » Wed, Jul 19, 2017, 4:36 AM UTC

kharms wrote: post #8

>>Glass is also helping healthcare professionals. Doctors at Dignity Health have been using Glass with an application our partner Augmedix calls “a remote scribe”. My primary care doctor has a human scribe. The scribe is a recent graduate (BS), planning on going to med school next year. Being physically in the room, watching the doctor work is a great benefit to her. I'm not sure she'd benefit as much from watching a…

It's not about benefiting the graduate