Once a Model City, Hong Kong Is in Trouble

Post by dang » Fri, Jun 30, 2017, 7:55 AM UTC

unityByFreedom wrote: post #249

dang wrote: post #247

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You've broken the HN guidelines repeatedly in this thread by engaging in nationalistic flamewar. Please don't do that again. This is an international environment and the last thing we need is people sniping at each other's nations for either internecine or xenophobic reasons. When feeling activated, we all must take care to remain respectful. (Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14669197. ) We detached this…

Certainly wasn't my intention. I'll be more careful in the future. I guess I'm not sure how to debate whether one city produces more successful startups than another. I mean, I think it's safe to say that Y Combinator and SF have been more successful than, say, Union Square Ventures and NYC, so I'm not sure where the internecine is in my above comment, but I guess I'll just sidestep this topic altogether for now and…

Post by devdoomari » Fri, Jun 30, 2017, 8:03 AM UTC

vkou wrote: post #216

wbl wrote: post #169

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They can teach us how to use political dissidents as organ donors, suppress protests by disappearing opponents, imprison those who point out corruption, and no doubt many other things alien to our way of life.

The United States isn't far behind in making it illegal to report criminal behaviour. Consider ag-gag laws, consider how whistelblowers get punished.

Post by holydude » Fri, Jun 30, 2017, 8:12 AM UTC

MachinShinn- wrote: post #201

holydude wrote: post #17

Ofc China does not want HK to be free. China found out how to get "rich" without losing control. They want exactly the opposite of what makes HK HK. It's just sad that many strong economies feel like they need / want the growth based on chinese consumption and trade and are feeding this undemocratic behemoth. What is scary is that China is actively promoting expansion by resettling ethnic han chinese.

Huh? People in HK are already ethnic han chinese... If you're talking about Tibet/East Turkestan, sure.

Post by unityByFreedom » Fri, Jun 30, 2017, 8:13 AM UTC

vitaminbandit wrote: post #254

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> remembering that other people feel as much love and loyalty for their side as we each do for ours. Oh, for sure. I try to maintain respect for all nations and their people. Are you certain you weren't targeting another comment? I guess I could've done without the "Lol" in my comment above, and just cited Tencent without implying the commenter was "ignoring" them. But there wasn't any internecine or xenophobia there…

Don't be a clown, dude. You basically called this poster a Beijing shill because you didn't agree with his position. https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=14667581 Dang, I apologize for my role in this and will take the ban. Keep up the good work.

Post by vacri » Fri, Jun 30, 2017, 8:18 AM UTC

unityByFreedom wrote: post #198

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The US has a free press. The current president is a governmental incompetant, and is using the office to enrich his family. The latest story is that even the major personalities in his own party are telling him publicly to shape up, admonishing him like a naughty schoolboy. What will actually change in government to prevent Trump 2.0? How will it be improved? That's the saddest thing about this whole debacle, is that…

Trump is more constrained in the US than he would be as a leader elsewhere. There are a number of active lawsuits against him, most important probably being the emoluments ones. These take time to prepare and put in front of a judge. I don't know what better solution there is to wannabe dictators than a free press. Trump hates the press that doesn't agree with him. That should be a big sign that they are a thorn in h…