Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

Post by sangnoir » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 11:26 AM UTC

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Only on newer hardware. Trust me, you don't want to be caught running the latest OS on older Apple hardware because it will run like molasses. If your hardware is the "minimum supported model" or the next most recent, you're better off not upgrading at all.

MacOS Sierra runs superbly on my 2012 rMBP. It's only a couple months shy of 4 years old.

Post by pier25 » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 3:47 PM UTC

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There are probably some people out there still making the argument that macs aren't more expensive, but I think most people have stopped, because the facts have changed. I'm having trouble finding it, but if I recall correctly, Joanna Stern was on John Gruber's podcast and flatly said the prices weren't comparable. Gruber either agreed or was silent.

As recently as 2-3 years ago there were Macs out there that cost less than any comparable PC. Ultra light laptops with retina screens were cheaper from Apple than Asus or Dell. Any machine with a 27" retina screen was $1000 cheaper from Apple. For five years before that, any 27" screen at all was much cheaper from Apple. For many years, a $2000 MacBook Air was cheaper than its competition because there was no competi…

Post by todd8 » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 4:22 PM UTC

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What was she actually against in the new MBP? (New MBP user myself, don't like the touch bar, but otherwise a fine machine.)

Yeah I'd like to know the answer on that too. I have a 2015 that I like but I was in the store the other day and tried a 2016 and actually liked it. I have no reason to upgrade, but if I was buying one new and I didn't know the Internet hated it, I wouldn't be put off. That trackpad is HUGE!

Post by JustSomeNobody » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 6:20 PM UTC

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Something something Steve Jobs "truck" analogy. We're in a world where the masses don't need/want a PC (which is unfortunate, since that will arguably mean children will have less access to fully-functional computers in formative years when they may develop an interest in programming, but I digress). Apple, a company that claimed to grasp that concept just a few years ago, is completely failing on it right now. So, t…

> We're in a world where the masses don't need/want a PC Oh, I think many people still use a PC every day - at work. Office jobs are not going to disappear in the next decade. I wish Apple would try harder to capture this super boring market: With a better Mac Mini, by formalising its policy of supporting each OS for three years, with a focus on stability over gimmicks, etc.

Post by zumu » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 9:50 PM UTC

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The flip side is that I needed a laptop to take with me to events, so I got a $750 dell xps13. If I were a college student, I'd be eyeing the $1200 version extremely hard versus an equivalent specced macbook pro at $1700 Or, the $750 version (which is what I have) versus a $1000 macbook that's significantly less powerful.

You can spend about $350 and get a high quality 13" IPS 1080p display Chromebook that weighs under 3 pounds if you're willing to spend 5 minutes putting in an SSD and installing Linux natively on it. I've been using the above set up for half a year now roughly and it's great. I can do all of my development work, writing, browsing, etc. without feeling like I'm giving up much for those sorts of tasks and the price is…