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Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by user5994461 »

fsloth wrote: post #233
cyberferret wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They need to get rid of 3D touch, get rid of double-tap one-hand accessibility mode whatever it's called, get rid of weird swipes from the edge Hear, hear. It's like my last days of using Windows. Every app window had so many "hot spots" crammed in that triggered something, so that whenever i had multiple overlapping windows and wanted to click on a background window to bring it to the foreground, I would inadverte…

I'll have to inject a bit of criticism to this particular rant. If one is using several applications on Windows and being productive about it - You don't switch applications in Windows by clicking then with mouse. You order them on the task bar and then switch between them using windows button - number (where number is the order on the task bar.).

Cool. One more keyboard trick to navigate windows efficiently.

Now I'll have to figure out if it can compete with a mastery of ctrl+tab and alt+tab (and windows+tab and their cousins ctrl+shift+tab).

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by adamlett »

PunchTornado wrote: post #148
Longhanks wrote: post #106

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I can definitely relate to that. Using iOS at this point frustrates me so much that sometimes I pull out my iPhone 4S running iOS 6 to remember what a wonderful UI and UX that was. The bigger problem is the lack of alternatives. Android is such a mess of inconsistencies and bad UX, added to that are the problems with system updates, lack of a proper flagship device (the Pixel is a joke compared to the iPhone 6s in my…

Isn't Apple just as bad as google with user data? I feel that all of them, apple, google, facebook, amazon, they all disregard our privacy.

I feel that all of them, apple, google, facebook, amazon, they all disregard our privacy.

You feel that?

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by smcl »

jblow wrote: post #93

Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

In your usability rants I have every one of those problems too (particularly autocorrect and swiping). I wonder how widespread this is? I'd like to add four more:

1. iTunes is slowly degrading into a usability nightmare - recommendations are often albums I own and bought from Apple!

2. the OS itself seemingly picks apps at random for the "play" button on the "swipe-up" menu. Like I might play a podcast on, say, Monday morning and then switch to music - but for the remainder of the monday and some of tuesday when I pause, lock and then later use the "swipe-up" menu it tries to resume playing the podcast not the music. not to mention this menu has two tabs, and switching between them involves a swipe - which usually triggers some of the sliders (Brightness, volume, position) on the screen. This clearly didn't go through any UX testing.

3. no way to disable "voice control" home key shortcut - my iPhone 6S has an AWFUL habit of interpreting background noise as "Dial my ex girlfriend". I somehow can't kill the call before it starts ringing, but usually I don't see it because something has pressed the home button in my pocket. It's truly embarrassing.

4. "Do you trust this computer?" for the millionth time, yes!

This is my last iPhone, I think.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by Godel_unicode »

spacelizard wrote: post #225
sssilver wrote: post #218

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Please, don't -- 3D touch is one of the big reasons I will never switch to a phone that doesn't support it. It's an absolutely wonderful UX for me.

I get the appeal of 3D touch but it has absolutely no discoverability - this feels like a complete setback in UX design. Apple used to be known for having UIs that had a lot of visual cues and didn't hide features from the user. However it seems they have done a 180 on that in recent years.

Why do you find 3d tough less discoverable than e.g. long-press to rearrange apps?

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by Freestyler_3 »

nkkollaw wrote: post #178
monkmartinez wrote: post #130

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Only $10??? That is a lot of money for something that shouldn't be needed in the first place. I haven't spent $10 dollars on my phone since I bought a case for it in 2013. Then again, I have expandable memory and a headphone jack (Galaxy Note 3).

Alright, so you spend $800 for a phone, and you're complaining that you can't spare $10? I'm not saying removing the headphone jack to make the phone a mm thinner wasn't a retarded move, but... Really? $10?

If I buy an $800 device, I make sure it does what I want it to do with the least amount of friction (add/replace my other hardware).

What if I buy a router today and there is a company that sells routers with a nice gui, but all the rj45 jacks are removed and it requires a dongle on the power jack to be able to connect a rj45. (For some reason it comes with a dongle but that requires the router to run on batteries)

Anywho, I am not the guy that is going to buy apple hardware anyway. So I don't really have any impact on apple if I don't buy anything.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by adamlett »

spacelizard wrote: post #225
sssilver wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please, don't -- 3D touch is one of the big reasons I will never switch to a phone that doesn't support it. It's an absolutely wonderful UX for me.

I get the appeal of 3D touch but it has absolutely no discoverability - this feels like a complete setback in UX design. Apple used to be known for having UIs that had a lot of visual cues and didn't hide features from the user. However it seems they have done a 180 on that in recent years.

Discoverability is not the be-all end-all of UI design. In most ways iOS is a huge step forward in UI design as evidenced by the legions of toddlers who can figure out how to use an iPad.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by Freestyler_3 »

on_and_off wrote: post #146
wklauss wrote: post #135

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YMMV depending on what Android phone you want to compare it to, but it's still not 100% there, even in expensive ones. That being said, it's not longer a deal breaker, I think, for most of the people that used to complain about it and if you have a pixel or a high end Galaxy its very rare to find instances of slugginess or dropped frames when scrolling. I still face more sudden app crashes on Android than on iOS, wei…

It is very rare for a Pixel, but Galaxy phones are a very large step behind them.

When I need a new phone I am going with a company that supports sold phones for a longer time.

Samsung abandons phones so fast, android updates are rare. (I know in my case the carrier is also between it)

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by legodt »

smcl wrote: post #253
jblow wrote: post #93

Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

In your usability rants I have every one of those problems too (particularly autocorrect and swiping). I wonder how widespread this is? I'd like to add four more: 1. iTunes is slowly degrading into a usability nightmare - recommendations are often albums I own and bought from Apple! 2. the OS itself seemingly picks apps at random for the "play" button on the "swipe-up" menu. Like I might play a podcast on, say, Monda…

>iTunes is slowly degrading

That is incredibly generous considering the past decade of itunes, especially for Windows users. So much bad code, legacy cruft, and inconsistent UI decisions

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by cyber_dude »

ihuman wrote: post #99
jblow wrote: post #93

Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

>My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgrade to AirPods The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Also, you can disable 3D touch and reachability (the double-tap home button thing) in the accessibility settings, if those are causing your issues. >offer a system that just underlines words-thought-to-be-wrong…

>The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones.

What if I want to use my headphones while charging my phone?

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by function_seven »

smcl wrote: post #253
jblow wrote: post #93

Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

In your usability rants I have every one of those problems too (particularly autocorrect and swiping). I wonder how widespread this is? I'd like to add four more: 1. iTunes is slowly degrading into a usability nightmare - recommendations are often albums I own and bought from Apple! 2. the OS itself seemingly picks apps at random for the "play" button on the "swipe-up" menu. Like I might play a podcast on, say, Monda…

Weird. My experience is opposite of yours. When I try to adjust the brightness or volume, the damn thing swipes to the next card instead!

Also weird: My opposite experience is just as maddening :)

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