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Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by thinkling »

daenney wrote: post #29
kabes wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you mean the QC30's. I just got those and the app seems different. I'm betting they're probably the same hardware with different software and will be sold separately. Because... more money

Right yes, sorry, the 30's. Mmm, according to the description of the iOS Bose Hear app: Companion app for Bose® Hearphones™ conversation-enhancing headphones to let you hear the world on your terms. This app is not compatible with Bose QC30 Headphones. Now I'm curious if the Hearphones have the same ANC capabilities as the QC30s + the extra stuff. That would be interesting.

Hearphones page says: "Directional microphones help you focus on conversations in noisy places. Focus, amplify or reduce real-world sounds to the level you want." So the hearphones don't just do cancelation of repetitive-signal type noise, in addition they will amplify sound from the direction you're facing to help carry on a conversation.

The Bose QC series don't have that. Nor does the PocketTalker product mentioned in another comment here.

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by ridgeguy »

Certified wrote: post #64
_fs wrote: post #9

I really wish someone was working to solve the problem of tinnitus. Would it be possible to generate anti phase wave out of these things to cancel out tinnitus? I would pay anything and/or wear any goofy device in my ears to live life tinnitus free.

A project I worked on suggests vibrating the bone just under the earlobe at around 50kHz with a piezoelectric stack might help. 8 years or so ago I helped make a pocket sized and rechargeable medical device that operates on this principle. Last I checked it was still in FDA hell but helping the majority of sufferers in the trials. The theory of operation is that is breaks up tiny air bubbles stuck to the hairs in the…

Joining interested others to ask for any links to your work. Thanks!

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by tn13 »

boobsbr wrote: post #77

Wow, this address a major problem I have. I have decent hearing, but when I'm in a noisy environment like a bar, I can hear but can't understand what other people are saying. It's why I don't like going to bars/pubs with live performances or ambient music. People think I'm bored or brooding because I'm not talking to anyone, but I just can't understand anything anyone says, so I can't participate in a conversation.

Get medical help to test yourself. This is not to scare you but there are large number of sometime even trivial health issues that might cause this. It will hurt your social professional life.

I use to avoid drive-through, phone conversations etc. because there was always a 10% chance that everything I heard seemed like other person mumbling something. Medical help helped me correct the problem.

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by JoblessWonder »

jseliger wrote: post #102
boobsbr wrote: post #77

Wow, this address a major problem I have. I have decent hearing, but when I'm in a noisy environment like a bar, I can hear but can't understand what other people are saying. It's why I don't like going to bars/pubs with live performances or ambient music. People think I'm bored or brooding because I'm not talking to anyone, but I just can't understand anything anyone says, so I can't participate in a conversation.

Try these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0044DEESS . I keep a pair in my pocket. They're shockingly good, and unless someone is looking closely for them they're not real noticeable. They're also cheap enough that a lost pair is not catastrophic.

Question: When you wear these, do you get the same sensation you get when you put your fingers/expanding foam earplugs in your ears? It is hard to describe but almost like a humming/pressure sound? Depending on how I put them in I can get that sound or not. When I don't get it, I'm not sure if they are working. When I do, the quality of the audio suffers.

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by boobsbr »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #158
boobsbr wrote: post #77

Wow, this address a major problem I have. I have decent hearing, but when I'm in a noisy environment like a bar, I can hear but can't understand what other people are saying. It's why I don't like going to bars/pubs with live performances or ambient music. People think I'm bored or brooding because I'm not talking to anyone, but I just can't understand anything anyone says, so I can't participate in a conversation.

This is a known condition, apparently, called "Hidden Hearing Loss" and was covered here a couple months ago: http://www.wsj.com/articles/cant-hear-in-noisy-places-its-a-... (if the direct link from here gets you to the paywall, it looks like a referral thing. Oddly going to it form Twitter worked, though Incognito and Web didn't: https://mobile.twitter.com/Jieqian_Zhang/status/780613322097... ) HN comments: https://…

Wow, never thought the synapses could be damaged. Very interesting to know, will tell the audiologist about these new tests.

Also, the link from Twitter worked, but the direct link hit a paywall.

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by boobsbr »

tn13 wrote: post #253
boobsbr wrote: post #77

Wow, this address a major problem I have. I have decent hearing, but when I'm in a noisy environment like a bar, I can hear but can't understand what other people are saying. It's why I don't like going to bars/pubs with live performances or ambient music. People think I'm bored or brooding because I'm not talking to anyone, but I just can't understand anything anyone says, so I can't participate in a conversation.

Get medical help to test yourself. This is not to scare you but there are large number of sometime even trivial health issues that might cause this. It will hurt your social professional life. I use to avoid drive-through, phone conversations etc. because there was always a 10% chance that everything I heard seemed like other person mumbling something. Medical help helped me correct the problem.

If you don't mind me prodding, what was the condition causing this for you?

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by j2bax »

jluk wrote: post #183
cracell wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on price for me. I have trouble hearing in noisy environments. When I was young I was diagnosed with an auditory processing problem so I assume it's related to that. When I meet with someone in a noisy environment I just accept that I'm only going to understand every other word that someone says. Which leads to a lot of smiling and nodding blankly. I know very expensive hearing aids could handle this for me b…

Interesting, to me I would never carry an additional independent hearing aid for this problem. I generally have my keys, wallet, smartphone, and possibly music headphones. If this could be paired in with existing headphones - awesome, otherwise I can't see many people adding an additional headphone to the aforementioned list without a larger problem. I do like the expansion of the Bose objective though with this.

Do you have reason to believe these aren't intended to replace your current daily driver headphones?

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by Mankhool »

I have always used my QC20 noise cancelling earbuds in this way so I'm glad it will get better. Just last weekend in a noisy eatery I put them in and my SO and her friend thought I was listening to music, but I said, "No, now I can hear YOU". Cool.

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by abecedarius »

jluk wrote: post #7

Neat prospect, but I'm not convinced this is a big enough problem for the majority of people which is how this is marketed. I would also expect a price point comparative to other hearing aids to further distance the average consumer.

Think of augmented reality. It's generally conceived as modifying what you see, but why couldn't you benefit from a computer able to modify what you hear? It ought to be possible to do a lot of Google Glass-like things, not to mention Black Mirror-like, without looking as much like a space cadet or demanding as much of the hardware. (As a hearing aid user I was thinking about this 10 years ago.)

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by smrq »

comex wrote: post #248
djsumdog wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see a lot of live music. I am very lucky a doctor long ago told me I need to guard myself from hearing loss (he was treating me for an ear infection). I always carry earplugs when I go to shows. Sometimes it's the nice plastic ones; sometimes I lose those and go back to the foam ones. Sometimes I forget and uses pieces of tissue (don't do that. When those pieces get stuck, it's slightly terrifying picking them out…

I don't go to concerts often but when I do, I tend to bring foam earplugs: partly to protect my hearing, partly because otherwise the music is usually subjectively painfully loud. Sometimes when I haven't brought them I make do with tissue. Problem is, even without earplugs I always find it pretty hard to actually experience the music, comprehend the lyrics, etc. at concerts because it's so loud and distorted. Earplu…

Foam earplugs are absolute garbage. The difference is night and day.

With foam, it's like being at a rock show underwater. With musician's earplugs, it's like being at a rock show at a reasonable volume. Spend the $20.

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