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Re: Electron considered harmful

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Yes, but it's not Cocoa's problem.

It's Cocoa's problem because people stop using it for that reason. A toolkit no-one uses is a failure.

It's doing well - I currently have 2 Electron apps and dozens of Cocoa apps on my Mac. :)

Re: Electron considered harmful

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post #251

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It's Cocoa's problem because people stop using it for that reason. A toolkit no-one uses is a failure.

It's doing well - I currently have 2 Electron apps and dozens of Cocoa apps on my Mac. :)

We're talking about dev mindshare today. What you have installed is irrelevant.

Re: Electron considered harmful

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post #251

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It's doing well - I currently have 2 Electron apps and dozens of Cocoa apps on my Mac. :)

We're talking about dev mindshare today. What you have installed is irrelevant.

I bet that 20-25% of desktop apps on Mac will use Electron in the next 5-7 years.

Re: Electron considered harmful

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> Yes - electron apps are slower and eat more ram - but someone else is paying for that. I hope you're being facetious here. If you develop any kind of desktop application and truly believe this, honestly this is disappointing to read.

Doing something quick and dirty in electron takes N hours. Doing a 'proper' cross platform native app the right way takes N+P hours. If people are willing to pay for those extra P hours then I'd be more than happy to do things the 'right' way. However almost nobody is. I've spent a lot of time on team web-apps-suck, and in many ways I'm still a casual fan. But the truth is I can go from zero to good enough much faste…

> Doing something quick and dirty in electron takes N hours. Doing a 'proper' cross platform native app the right way takes N+P hours.

Source?

Really, I'm not at all convinced that whipping up an Electron app is inherently quicker than whipping up a native app. Especially when we have robust, mature RAD tools for native toolkits, and things like Qt Quick, WPF, and Java FX let you go the whole "write your GUI in some markup language" route, if that's your bag.

Re: Electron considered harmful

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post #168

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Purely out of interest, because I might have used one without even realising it, but could you link some desktop applications written in Java that haven't been sluggish as hell or a bit broken feeling?

JEdit? Any IDE by IntelliJ? These are not JavaFX (its fairly new), but you asked for Java.

IntelliJ is a good IDE, but it's UI is far from not-sluggish.
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