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Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by EddieRingle »

redwards510 wrote: post #139
Someone wrote: post #60

"The Pixel phones will also be the first to run the next version of Android, Nougat 7.1 […] Everyone is treated the same, including Rick’s team" Treated the same, to a limit, I guess. If everyone is treated the same, they wouldn't be able to guarantee to be the first ones out with Nougat. Let's see how short or long the lead start is they will give their own phones.

Interestingly, during the presentation today, the woman said "running Nougat", no mention of 7.1

7.1 is a maintenance release of Nougat.

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Post by w1ntermute »

anfogoat wrote: post #218
adamweld wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front. Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

I've had the worst time since switching to the OnePlus 3 and from what I've read the OS on this phone is very close to stock Android. The only way to have a good experience with email, calendars and contacts is to use Google Apps – which I refuse to migrate to. The stock apps have no support for IMAP IDLE, CardDAV, or CalDAV. You have to resort to 3rd party apps for these and they are without fail either slow, buggy,…

Have you tried using third party apps on the iPhone? You can't change the default browser, mail client, maps app, etc. on iOS. At least it's possible to switch the defaults to 3rd party apps on Android.

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Post by vmarsy »

angryasian wrote: post #188
seanmccann wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple earns about 94% of the smartphone industry profit with just 14% of the market. It's a thing.

google has never sold a phone directly. The pixel is the first one. Second no one know how much income google generates from Android or Android related services.

There was this story recently on hacker news about that Oracle lawyer that published this exact information:

> Google Inc.’s Android operating system has generated revenue of $31 billion and $22 billion in profit

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-21/google-s-a...

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Post by drewrv »

djhworld wrote: post #210

The price makes me a bit sad tbh One of the best things about the Nexus range was they offered the Google vision of android at a reasonable price. The Nexus 4, 5 and 6 were affordable. I purchased my Nexus 5 for a shade below £300 when it came out, which I thought was excellent value for money in comparison to how much I had paid for a Samsung previously. This Pixel line seems to have abandoned that ideal to compete…

Absolutely agree. I know there are other cheap android phones but Nexus was always a good bang for your buck. This is like Toyota discontinuing the corolla to compete with Maserati.

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Post by jjuel »

loeg wrote: post #191
jknightco wrote: post #70

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Galaxy Nexus had a bit of VZW bloat, but that was the only one I can remember having any.

Yeah, Galaxy Nexus did. And HTC One (m8) did as well.

But the HTC One is not a stock Android phone like the Nexus line and now the Pixel.

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Post by bluthru »

czhiddy wrote: post #8

“The difference with this device is that we started from the beginning,” says Dave Burke, who runs Android engineering. Started from scratch, yet the end result looks like a iPhone knockoff from a random Chinese shanzhai company? http://i.imgur.com/LlqaAPO.png

This is worse than Samsung.

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Post by gergles »

guelo wrote: post #209
MBCook wrote: post #158

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Do you have a source for that? It doesn't have a track record (for obvious reasons). Has Google promised the carriers don't get to interfere this time?

"Pixel ships with the newest Android operating system, Android 7.1 Nougat. Phones will get software and security updates as soon as they’re available, directly from Google. " https://blog.google/products/pixel/introducing-pixel-our-new... It's the same as Nexus phones, carriers did not interfere with them.

But they still did. The "Verizon" Galaxy Nexus was basically a completely different phone from the other Galaxy Nexus versions and didn't get the same support or updates.

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Post by asenna »

ghshephard wrote: post #157
Fej wrote: post #95

What is the draw here? I have been running my Nexus 5 into the ground (soldered on a new power button when the original broke) in anticipation of the next Nexus phone. Pixel is no Nexus. Seriously, what does this have that the year-old Nexus 6P and 5X don't, other than incremental hardware improvements? And a massive price hike? Why should I buy this? (Seriously, Google? You want $650 for a phone with a 1080p screen?…

Nice (best in class) camera is one of the highlight features.

I can't compare without trying the others out but the camera on a Nexus 6P is amazing. I am not sure how big a difference would the camera be on the Pixel over the 6P.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by MBCook »

guelo wrote: post #209
MBCook wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a source for that? It doesn't have a track record (for obvious reasons). Has Google promised the carriers don't get to interfere this time?

"Pixel ships with the newest Android operating system, Android 7.1 Nougat. Phones will get software and security updates as soon as they’re available, directly from Google. " https://blog.google/products/pixel/introducing-pixel-our-new... It's the same as Nexus phones, carriers did not interfere with them.

Ah, that's good.
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