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Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by DominikR »

tomp wrote: post #203
thaumasiotes wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Males generally dont marry up? > I've seen that women have their fair share of not wanting to marry down either "Males generally don't marry up" and "Females generally don't marry down" are exactly the same claim .

Not really, if you read between the lines and realize that they are not just claiming fact, but also cause ("men don't want to marry up" vs "women don't want to marry down").

And which one is the cause here? I don't see why anyone wouldn't WANT to marry up.

I'm pretty sure that there are much fewer women in the high status category than men, so these men make the only rational decision (if they don't want to stay alone) - they marry down.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by sendos »

rayiner wrote: post #247
hkmurakami wrote: post #244

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Looks like there's a correlation with long hours and isolated work environments away from other peer groups. Doctors for instance are well known for pairing up during the residency grind since it dramatically drops their interactions with anyone outside of their residency program and also occurs during their late 20's. A perfect storm.

The top 5 is also a list of professions requiring extensive graduate education. There is a lot of pairing up in medical/dental/law school.

FYI, the ranking has changed. The results depend on how the lines of the form "1, 10, BLANK, BLANK, 2.04E+07" are interpreted.

Physicians are still up there, but some other occupations have also entered, such as "Farmers, Ranchers"

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by zhemao »

EGreg wrote: post #222

Female Models, Demonstrators, and Product Promoters partner with: Truck Drivers Miscellaneous Managers Retail SupervisorsLaborersRetail, SalespersonsIndustrial, and Refractory Machinery Mechanics

Yeah, the model-truck driver connection is a real head-scratcher. It doesn't seem like they would often be in the same social circles.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by vacri »

colmvp wrote: post #205
MicroBerto wrote: post #190

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Of course you'll find some males that "marry up", but the data proves what many of us have known forever - as a man, you should strive to be elite in something , preferably something useful and sexually attractive. Otherwise you're just another brick in the wall. Where this is all going to blow up in society is the fact that women are now better-educated, and will soon make more money than their male counterparts, wh…

Regarding your point about black women: At least in North America, Black females, like Asian men, have a harder time in the dating scene partially due to their gender/ethnicity combination. Both sets endure media representation and stereotypes that play against their sexual desirability. I'm sure people here will profess that they are immune to any images cultivated by the media and I'm not going to discount their ex…

> I have met more black men who said they would never date a black women and Asian women who said they'd never date Asian men compared to white people who say they'd never date a white person

Anecdote: a second-gen-immigrant Italian friend of mine said her mother declared that my friend was not allowed to marry an Italian man, the reasoning being "I didn't raise my daughters to be mothers to their husbands". My friend said that from what her mother saw, Italian-culture men behaved like other men when married to a non-Italian woman, but when married to an Italian, there was a cultural expectation similar to mothering involved.

data size n=1, anecdata, all that stuff.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by stared »

kukx wrote: post #235
casca wrote: post #57

If anyone wants to improve the usability, data files are: http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-who-marries-whom/job-... http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-who-marries-whom/pair...

How to interpret this kind of entry (pair-count.csv): 1,1010,,,1.53E+07 where sex_sp and occ_sp is omitted. Also, how to interpret the first entry in the job-name.csv: none,none,0,none I'm currently inclined to simply ignore these in my analysis.

It looks like counts of people with particular job.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by djcapelis »

galfarragem wrote: post #220
balls187 wrote: post #141

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> Males generally dont marry up? My wife has a PhD, and is a Senior Data Scientist (why not Chief, who knows), and belongs to a noble Swedish/Finnish family. I am P.O.C. trash, from a (mostly) poor town in S Tacoma, WA. I hit the jackpot. > Unfortunately, their standards have really gone up since receiving said education. I'm not saying this to bash, it's simply my observation. I suspect that part of it has to do wit…

In marriage intelligence is more important than status . Men normally don't want to marry a smarter woman then them and the opposite on women. 1600 karma gives you some relationship potential and places you above trash..

> 1600 karma gives you some relationship potential and places you above trash.

I think you might be valuing people rather strangely, don't you think?

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by KMag »

GSimon wrote: post #165

Explosives Worker -> Librarians I guess opposites do attract.

Maybe it's survival bias. Explosive workers who spend a lot of time reading up on the latest industry literature after work survive longer than those who hit the bar after work? (Yes, if the death rate made a measurable difference here, OSHA would step in.)

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by wcummings »

7952 wrote: post #214
vox_mollis wrote: post #161

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Identity politics is how you shut down rational thought in the postmodern era. Very relevant to how people "argue" now.

You may be right but I find it difficult to believe you can really detach argument from peoples sense of identity. People are just too susceptible to bias for that. I don't trust scientists, I trust science. Rationalism is something to aspire to, not a sense of identity to attack people with.

>You may be right

No... no, they're not.

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