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Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by YuriNiyazov »

ElComradio wrote: post #237
YuriNiyazov wrote: post #155

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Do you have an arrest record? If not: there's the magic power. Statistically speaking, a poor young black male is much more likely to have an arrest record than a poor young white male. Edit: holy batman the downvotes. I never considered the possibility that maybe #hnwatch is right.

You are comparing an individual to a group which is a mismatch. It would be absurd to tell someone to recognize their privilege that the odds were in their favor but nonetheless they rolled poorly. It's like telling some white guy on death row to feel privileged he had a lower chance of being there.

That's not absurd at all.

Being a white male is being allowed at a table in a casino where the expected value of the game is positive, and much higher than any other table. You can still lose, but the players in general don't. You should be thankful for being allowed to play a game with the highest expected value.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by [deleted] »

specialk wrote: post #213
yaakov34 wrote: post #176

She certainly doesn't say "only white" and she explicitly excludes white women ("some of the biggest barriers to progress"). You can make convoluted excuses for her, but it's obvious that she sees white people (of whatever gender or socioeconomic status) as essentially enemies, and doesn't want them as allies (let alone is willing to accept some of them as people with different, but valid opinions). It's not acceptab…

There is a subtle irony in your comment. I think it is interesting to tease out because much of the arguments on diversity come from one's own perspective. So, if you'll indulge me, your argument is essentially 'us vs them' is a bad thing. About right? If so, I agree. We're not going to solve an exclusionary tech culture by excluding people or creating two sides to a debating war. But what strikes me is that your com…

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Post by vidarh »

honestcoyote wrote: post #159
tomschlick wrote: post #112

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Tumblr is leaking.

Apparently Reddit is leaking. Tumblr: the scapegoat for everything they don't like.

As a white middle-aged male, Tumblr is the only place I've experienced what it is like to be on the receiving end of racism. It's quite fascinating to see just how vile some of it gets. Of course it is only fascinating to me because I can trivially withdraw from it and not be particularly affected.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by ake1 »

ex3ndr wrote: post #84
audessuscest wrote: post #39

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Actually Gitlab could be a replacement, I use it with 10 dev team + customers and we have absolutely no problem.

We tried to switch. After few days devs make a note on the table "X days without GitLab being down". X always was < 2.

been using gitlab for the past two years at work and the only time it's inaccessible is when upgrading it. it does have a lot of other issues like response time and a difficult to navigate ui but crashing is not one of them.

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Post by rhizome »

malandrew wrote: post #130
hitekker wrote: post #38

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This makes me sad. I thought you were being over the top about the racism but then I saw the slides in the article: http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/56b3d2462e526543008... My first reaction is that the language of "us" vs "them", victims vs oppressors, reeks of hatred. Hatred undermines productive conversation, which undermines any attempt at building a good culture. I would have to listen to the whole presen…

I don't know if you even need to see the whole presentation. A few of the full sentences on that one slide are more than enough to project a strong us vs them attitude of hatred and victim versus oppressor, especially the following bullets: - "This is not work for white folks to lead" - "Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women" - "we need solidarity with our Asian friends and colleagues" This is blat…

"Racial" is not the same as "racist." I don't think it helps the conversation to conflate them, and it's anti-intellectual criticism that inhibits even speaking about race.

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Post by tedmiston »

moonlighter wrote: post #117
chinathrow wrote: post #23

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You can easily make your bitbucket projects public and show them off. No need to be conformed into using a given service.

While I fully agree, there's somewhat of a chicken-n-egg problem here though, because part of the profile shows contributions to other projects/repos, and that's more of a github thing, partly because their profile is designed differently to focus on that, and partly because there are just many more popular repos on github to begin with, so to contribute to those, an Atlasssian bitbucket profile doesn't help much, IF…

You raise a good point.

I know others have waxed on the irony of the centralized role GitHub plays in a supposedly decentralized world of the DVCS that is git.

It would be cool if there were a Behance or even a Dribbble for programmers: a way for us to present our creations well but also easily in a host agnostic and semi or fully automated way.

Many of us or don't invest the effort necessary to maintain a work portfolio, unlike say design oriented fields where it's the norm. I think there could be something to it.

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Post by khyryk »

patrickaljord wrote: post #163
khyryk wrote: post #111

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So you paste your bitbucket link into the github field.

Yes but many employers want to look at how many stars and forks your repo got on github. It's a nice metric to filter repos from candidates, it is not enough for sure but usually repos with tons of stars are considered a good signal and it allows employers to save time before they start looking at your code. Bitbucket doesn't have enough users to offer these kinds of interesting metrics unfortunately.

I'm not sure about your sampling of "many". I can count the number of interviews where my code was actually looked at on one hand; no doubt this is different for unicorn-type companies.

At any rate, enter the law of triviality. Making something simple that lots of people will understand is more likely to lead to more stars than something brilliant but complex, yet more indicative of development skill. This selects for gaming of the system and/or salesmanship; no doubt said employers will screech about a lack of "qualified" candidates before long.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by rhizome »

alexandercrohde wrote: post #226
mjbh7k wrote: post #183

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- "This is not work for white folks to lead" Well, it's not. It's kind of missing the point if your diversity initiative is being run by white people. - "Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women" Second wave feminism, largely led by white women, often leaves out women of color. I mentioned this below, but the publishing industry is 79% white and 78% female. This has a huge impact on the types of stori…

>>It's kind of missing the point if your diversity initiative is being run by white people. How can anybody who advocates equality say no white person can lead a diversity movement? Just because somebody is white doesn't mean they aren't an oppressed minority (female, transgender, Jewish or some other oppressed group like a furry). I think we collectively need to declare it's not okay to say "people with skin color _…

Who is saying they can't have an opinion?
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