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Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by notacoward » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:23 PM UTC

Shish2k wrote: post #203

droopybuns wrote: post #108

This is a product I would actively shun. For better of worse, my prejudice of facebook is that it is an outstanding source of the following types of content: Humblebrag b.s. instagram photos passive aggressive shitposting about politics I can use social networks at work- but if they actually brought facebook in and demanded that we used it, I might consider quitting. I'd probably write a python script to repost rando…

Those posts aren't coming from facebook - they're coming from the people you choose to add as friends. I choose my friends carefully, and my news feed has none of that :)

Absolutely. I've seen people complain about this on Twitter, Facebook, Quora, and so on. It always always ALWAYS comes down to who the people follow or connect to. It's like blaming the phone for a rude caller. The medium is not the problem. The correlation between shitbird friends and shitbird posts on your social media is very high. The only reason people notice is because they're looking at their friends' behavior in a new context, instead of the context(s) where they had become habituated to it. Clue train: some of your college friends don't seem so cool when you're all grown-up and sober.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by GBond » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:23 PM UTC

kaushikt wrote: post #152

We've used "Facebook for Work" at work. It is highly distracting in IMO. One of the best productivity hacks is to never log into Facebook or any social accounts when at work. Now, we are working on it which keeps sending you notifications all day long and especially over the weekend. You like or comment saying - "Awesome, well deserved." The 100 people are going to do the same too. It's super annoying. This and the f…

This confirms my impression on the big downside of FFW. It brings the signal/noise problem to the office. It is the reason why I can't seem to embrace FB despite trying really hard.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by totalrobe » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:29 PM UTC

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #184

kriro wrote: post #165

I've seen a couple of the "let's bring social networks to the workplace" products and quite frankly none have impressed me so far. The real problem is not providing great technology but actually getting people in corporate environments to use it in a meaningful way. These projects usually end in the same manner...network is rolled out, used for a couple of weeks and fades into obscurity rarely used (and often leaving…

Slack's been incredibly successful of late. You might not think of it as a 'social network', but it does most of what Facebook at Work is advertising itself as.

Atlassian Confluence is also great. It's built around planning and idea/document management but has a lot of social elements like a company-wide questions board, a blog, notifications (@user), etc.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by ohnomrbill » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:30 PM UTC

Swizec wrote: post #211

jeggeragain wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't be so sure your experience matches everyone else's. The 'we' you mentioned does not include me. I will add all my work contacts on LinkedIn but I will only add a few (about 5%) on FB; ones who I socialise with outside of work.

True. That part probably depends on how big are the companies you work for. It seems very customary to add at least everyone on your direct team to Fb though.

I would be very unhappy if a coworker added me on FB immediately after joining, and I'm the kind of person who's okay with having some coworkers as FB friends. I probably don't know them, and now I'm in a position where I need to reject an offer of friendship from them.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by GBond » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:33 PM UTC

fuzzywalrus wrote: post #56

benatkin wrote: post #40

I'm pretty sure this is going to be big. I think Slack is so successful not just because of the chat interface and the integrations, but because people reliably receive notifications, messages can contain attachments that are presented in a helpful way, and because it has good ways of organizing groups. Facebook has everything but the chat interface and the integrations. I don't see any reason for them not to add the…

I imagine it has its own appeal as most people in non-tech industries where Slack is unheard of understand Facebook. Plus it has the double whammy of servicing linkedin-like features. The video shows a fabric company if that says anything about who they're targeting. I don't think the HN crowd is who they're after.

Yes, what stood out to me in the OP video is it is targeted to normals. Whereas Slack has a startup/tech following.

Also, FB for Work has the biggest advantage from an Enterprise Software ever: they've already pre-trained 2 billion of the world's population on how to use it via the consumer version. Why not take advantage of that?

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by TeMPOraL » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:47 PM UTC

notacoward wrote: post #251

Shish2k wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those posts aren't coming from facebook - they're coming from the people you choose to add as friends. I choose my friends carefully, and my news feed has none of that :)

Absolutely. I've seen people complain about this on Twitter, Facebook, Quora, and so on. It always always ALWAYS comes down to who the people follow or connect to. It's like blaming the phone for a rude caller. The medium is not the problem. The correlation between shitbird friends and shitbird posts on your social media is very high. The only reason people notice is because they're looking at their friends' behavior…

Also, while you can blame your shitty Twitter or Quora experience on "random Internet strangers" posting crap, your Facebook feed is literally who you associate with in real life. It's a pretty decent mirror. Looking at it may be uncomfortable, so people blame the medium instead.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by pnut » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 2:13 PM UTC

Right, and Facebook totally swears not to archive all conversations for "market research" and optimization.

Seriously, their reputation for doing whatever they want with your information is well earned, what business would willingly expose their internal operations to this company?

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by greyman » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 2:17 PM UTC

dsl wrote: post #61

toomuchtodo wrote: post #24

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Slack charges. When is "Work" going to end up like Parse?

My guess is "Work" is a ploy to get Facebook un-blocked by corporate firewalls. The business functionality has already existed (since FB uses its own platform internally), so its comparatively minor in engineering effort.

I work for a Large Corp., and FB is not blocked. What is blocked are services like dropbox or google drive. But I can't imagine the security department would allow publishing work-related information to other company cloud.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by devnull42 » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 2:23 PM UTC

So no onsite data storage and no at rest encryption? These are the reasons we have been having issues with Slack. I was hoping they would address these clear gaps in the enterprise market.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by qjighap » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 2:23 PM UTC

jeggeragain wrote: post #209

Swizec wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, as is already the case with a lot of us millenials: We have fb. Everyone we know has fb. Everyone we get to know is added to fb. There is no distinction between private life and work life. Fb is where we keep track of who we know. Fb is where we ask around if anyone knows of a company looking for a person. Fb is where we ask around if any person is looking for a company. Fb is where we group text. Fb is where we…

Don't be so sure your experience matches everyone else's. The 'we' you mentioned does not include me. I will add all my work contacts on LinkedIn but I will only add a few (about 5%) on FB; ones who I socialise with outside of work.

I am just glad the constant linkedin is not facebook posts might stop. I don't understand why people keep these people as contacts if they feel that is detracts from their professionalism. My circle is small, but I have seen 3 facebook type posts (solve x or whatever) and now one to two a day to stop treating this like facebook posts.