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2015 “smashed” 2014’s global temperature record

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Re: 2015 “smashed” 2014’s global temperature record

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Another reason: the evidence is worldwide and obvious. Siberia melting in a couple of years, which it hasn't done in 40,000 years. All the glaciers receding drastically. The Antarctic ice shelf undergoing irreversible melting. It doesn't take a century of temperature measurement to see the result of heating up.

Did a scientist tell you this? That is not how science works. You cannot attribute events around you to some notion of obviousness. That reasoning would not pass any physicist's approval. Climate science is predicated upon a proper understanding of physics. Any scientist who tells you that worldwide evidence is obvious should be treated with the same level of respect as Dr. Oz. The typical response would be that the…

I'm not sure what you're getting at. The earth is heating up, we know, because all the ice is melting. And that hasn't happened for hundreds of centuries - long before people were a significant actor on this globe. What is in dispute? The cause, sure. That's still very much an interesting subject. But the fact of the earth heating up is, yes, obvious.

Re: 2015 “smashed” 2014’s global temperature record

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I don't doubt there's fraud in science. Stories pop up pretty frequently that show researchers claiming some new breakthrough with fudged data. But what would be required here would be far more than that. Individual fraudsters wouldn't be enough. Even systemic fraud wouldn't do it. It would need to be universal fraud, across basically the entire world. And it would need to be coordinated , to ensure everybody gives t…

Many of the sciences do suffer from systemic incompetence, if not fraud. There is evidence that dissent in climate science is punished. That alone is enough for me to pull out the microscope and take the words of minority researchers seriously.

Systemic incompetence isn't enough. Incompetence will get you wrong answers, but it won't get everyone the same wrong answer.
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