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Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Post by protonfish »

josteink wrote: post #187

Discussing "licensing" in a thread about coffee. Fuck. This is not what the future was supposed to be about. The future was supposed to bring us infinite possibilities through the means of technology. It was meant to be awesome. It was not meant to be artificially limited through the means of technology which could have been used to make our lives better instead. Where did we go wrong?

The flaw is thinking that technology alone can help people. If you created a machine that magically makes everyone the equivalent of a billionaire, but don't fix an imbalance of power - that certain people are allowed to take as much as they want from anyone with less power and privilege - then you have helped nobody.

We first must fix the problem of authority.

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Post by nirvdrum »

rancur wrote: post #163
nirvdrum wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Boston Globe Magazine had a pretty good piece on them a few years back. It was far easier to read in print, but I think this the article: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/2011/0807/ Most of the R&D went into the cups themselves. Simple as they seem, it appears the company went through a lot of iterations to get the right gas mixture and volume right to have fresh coffee with long shelf-life.

if by right gas mixture you mean 100% nitrogen, it's inert, and is used in tires and bags of chips. When the bags of chips are opened, however, the other special ingredient 'crisp' that they put in escapes

That's not what I meant.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Post by nirvdrum »

annnnd wrote: post #186
nirvdrum wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Boston Globe Magazine had a pretty good piece on them a few years back. It was far easier to read in print, but I think this the article: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/2011/0807/ Most of the R&D went into the cups themselves. Simple as they seem, it appears the company went through a lot of iterations to get the right gas mixture and volume right to have fresh coffee with long shelf-life.

Direct link: http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/08/07/the_insid... EDIT: single page.

Thanks for the direct link. I probably should have discovered that was an option.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Post by thrillgore »

snarfy wrote: post #4

Another solution is to not buy Keurig machines.

I paid 12 dollars for a cheap coffee press from IKEA. It doesn't ask any questions about the quality of the coffee or where its from. All it asks for is hot water and coffee.

It may take up more time to prepare and clean, but that's an opportunity cost for good coffee every morning.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Post by nightmedia »

What is funny is that it would have taken Keurig just a bit more effort to make the chip so that it has an unique signature. That way the machine will store the numbers it had already processed, and this hack would only allow you to cheat if you have more than one machine, but you'd still need to buy originals half of the time.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Post by ultramancool »

josteink wrote: post #187

Discussing "licensing" in a thread about coffee. Fuck. This is not what the future was supposed to be about. The future was supposed to bring us infinite possibilities through the means of technology. It was meant to be awesome. It was not meant to be artificially limited through the means of technology which could have been used to make our lives better instead. Where did we go wrong?

We went wrong when we discouraged hackers and competitors from doing this kind of thing. If this wasn't encouraged by government, products like the Keurig 2.0 would be broken quickly and soon after vanish. DRM should not be a viable business model. You want to prosecute copyright infringers, fine, that's one thing, but if you're attacking people who break DRM systems, that's quite another.

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Post by nickbauman »

sschueller wrote: post #177
nickbauman wrote: post #19

I have owned two Nespresso machines. They were both great for about 8 months. Then no matter how much I 'cleansed' them they made terrible tasting coffee. You can never get the insides completely clean. I suspect the Keurig has a similar problem. I'm now back to my ceramic filter cone (one-time $20 cost) and the coffee has never tasted better.

Did you use the Nespresso cleaning kit and then run the entire water tank through the machine twice without capsules? I have many Nespresso machines and never had a problem with degrading taste. Usually something else breaks like the milk frother on the Lattissima.

Yes, I followed the instructions. If you put a coffee from your machine in front of me and one from a traditional machine, I could identify yours by the bad taste I'm certain of it.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Post by ynniv »

arcosdev wrote: post #197
josteink wrote: post #187

Discussing "licensing" in a thread about coffee. Fuck. This is not what the future was supposed to be about. The future was supposed to bring us infinite possibilities through the means of technology. It was meant to be awesome. It was not meant to be artificially limited through the means of technology which could have been used to make our lives better instead. Where did we go wrong?

We started drinking garbage coffee

Yes! If you care more about coffee and less about convenience you'll end up pouring freshly ground beans over hot water and there isn't a damn thing technology can do to interfere there.

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Post by DanBC »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #214
DanBC wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keurig has already tried to use patent law to prevent competitors from selling pods. Their failure there feels like the reason their trying to make a device that they think can be protected under DMCA. http://blogs.findlaw.com/federal_circuit/2013/10/patent-exha...

Do we know that they think it can be protected under the DMCA? We know they provided a technological measure meant to require the use of their branded cups. That doesn't neccesarily mean they think their measures are protected under the DMCA. I hope they don't (and hope they are wrong if they do!). The DMCA is intended for copyrighted works, which a K-cup is not. (or shouldn't be, anyway, who knows what crazy things…

I mistakenly thought titleV counted here, but that seems to be restricted to boat hulls. Unless it's been expanded from that.

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Post by flurpitude »

jcarreiro wrote: post #221
pistle wrote: post #200

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This is how someone can sell a Keurig machine. That's not espresso and the coffee is a poor value. Seriously folks, is it that hard to make your own coffee that's better than these things?

The convenience is hard to beat. I recently switched from a drip coffee maker to a Keurig, and I love it. My wife and I don't drink much coffee and so making 12 cups is a huge waste, we end up throwing away 3/4 of the pot. I also leave for work fairly early (and I don't have a lot of time to spend making coffee in the morning) and so being able to put a pod in the Keurig and get decent coffee out of it a minute or tw…

And every time you make a cup of coffee you throw away a little plastic container. It's inefficient, expensive and wasteful, and it supports DRM. Putting some grounds into a filter and then composting them afterwards should not be a huge inconvenience.
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