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Re: Apple CarPlay

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I mean, Europe hasn't even moved over to automatic transmission yet. That's because automatic transmission is the worst and invented by the devil. More seriously, using an automatic transmission results in trade-offs, for instance fuel usage was the historical number 1 sticking point with automatics guzzling up the petrol compared to manuals. Modern engineering has closed that gap but there are still issues related t…

I used to think automatics were horrible (I live in the UK, drove manual for 15 years) then I got one... In terms of fuel economy, isn't it just a matter of time before automatics become as economical (then probably more economical) than manuals? Even without anticipating future events? Driving efficiently feels like something a computer could optimise for and that a human has no natural advantage doing.

Not really, an automatic transmission always adds some amount of weight over a manual transmission.

And this is why electrics are eventually going to win. A motor optimized for a single RPM speed driving a generator doesn't need a transmission. Even if the rest of the drive chain was as efficient, the loss of weight would drive the change over time.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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I'm actually happy to see this. I own a new Chevy vehicle and the integration between my phone and their proprietary system is awful. It seems like the two systems struggle for control. For example, if I am playing music over bluetooth and plug my phone into the USB to charge, it automatically switches to play over USB.

The other day I loaded a youtube video on my phone and played it over bluetooth. The in car system didn't understand play and pause and thought I was trying to control my music playlist. It kept switching between YT video and iphone playlist. It was awful.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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From the brief amount of information available so far, CarPlay doesn't seem to preclude the in-car system from supporting other mobile phone OS's. For instance it seems possible to equip a vehicle with, let's say, the Open Automotive Alliance's in-car Android system that can use Project Mode with Android phones and also implement CarPlay for when iPhones are present. After all, CarPlay appears to be dependent on the…

Seems like it mainly depends on Apple's licensing terms.

True.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Without being able to determine future road conditions then automatics can't guarantee being in the "right" gear for the up coming section of road. Be that due to traffic, grading, weather, banking, sharpness of corner etc. My go to example is the insanity of junction 15 of the m8, that loop onto the west bound motorway is a 270 degree corkscrew rising 30 feet with a diameter of 55 yards onto a 5 lane motorway where…

Or just buy a Nissan Versa today: http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/five-myths-about-stick-s... Manuals have better fuel usage then automatics is a myth for recent cars, no fancy self driving needed.

That's based on the official figures. No-one gets the listed MPG ratings in real life and automatics suffer worst than manuals for under-shooting the official mpg rating.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Yay, more touch screen in cars. More ways to distract, frustrate and confuse users who are operating a big box of steel weighing 3 tons and going at speeds the human brain has never evolved to appropriately deal with. 1) Not only are touch screens a very poor interactor in the first place [0], but why do you think planes and other complex machinery have stuck with physical controls? For operating complex vehicles/app…

Do you seriously think we'll have widespread self-driving cars — and not just the bare bones technology, but ones that we can ride in without any control at all, even while intoxicated — within a timespan short enough for every other advancement in car technology to not matter? I am almost 100% certain that we won't see that kind of thing even within the next few decades, if ever. Self-driving cars have way too many…

For some strange reason it is users in Europe that prefer manual transmission, since basically every car is available also with automatic transmission also.

If anybody cares, here is my theory (at least for Germany, where I am from): Driving lessons are very expensive in Germany and you have to decide if you want to learn automatic or manual transmission. If you learn on automatic transmission, you are only allowed to drive automatic cars. If you learn on a manual, you are allowed to drive both. The prices for the drivers license are the same. So, most people will learn to drive stick. Since they are then only used to driving stick, they are actually more comfortable with than with automatic. I have met quite a few people who I had to explain how to drive an automatic (it's obviously super easy if you already know how to drive a manual). So, I think it's want you learned first that you will stick with.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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This comment is a bit dismissive. Can you really claim that for iPod, iPhone and iPad? Sure, every invention is based on work of others, but Apple has still made huge improvements on multiple areas.

Marketing and gaining widespread adoption seem to be the areas that Apple excels at. In most cases where something is heralded as "revolutionary" by Apple, it has been done before. Maybe not as well or as polished, but usually it has been done before.

Even if all they do is do things better and more polished than others, that's something any company would do well to emulate.

And sometimes doing things simply in a "more polished" way is revolutionary.

The early, pre-iPod mp3 players were an absolute mess when it came to navigating your music. That doesn't show up on a spec sheet, but "creating the first mp3 player that lets you actually navigate your music in a simple and enjoyable manner" is pretty freaking revolutionary in my book.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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> Yay, more touch screen in cars. It's odd though that the number of auto accidents in the US has not increased with the increased use of in-dash touch screens and SmartPhones. Deaths from auto accidents have also been on the decline. It seems like people are doing a pretty good job adapting. 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 13.4 12.5 18.3 11.8 10.9 10.7 10.4 10.6 10.2 10.8

Population adjusted vehicle miles driven has also decreased during that time period: http://www.businessinsider.com/vehicle-miles-driven-2013-2 There's a lot of factors that go into reducing auto accidents, so that correlation doesn't really tell us anything about the danger of driving with touch screens in the car.

It tells us something, just not something anyone seriously wondered about. We can be pretty sure that vehicles with touchscreens don't get into (for example) 10,000x as many accidents as vehicles with manual controls, as that should be visible in the statistics.

What it doesn't tell us is whether or not touchscreens pose any significant additional danger.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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You ignore the fact that this is meant to be controlled by Siri and, yes, tactile knobs and switches in your car. It says it right there on the linked page. Little to no distraction needed.

You ignore the fact that this is meant to be controlled by Siri Nothing to improve road safety like elaborate arguments with a speech recognition engine...

You'll acclimate to it like you do everything else in life. People learned to drive just fine after coming out of horse drawn carriages and wagons. Don't act like people are not adaptable to innovation and change.
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