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As IRC has taught us for two decades, there are probably few things more antagonistic than a butthurt pirate.
What are you on about?
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#242And one of the foot soldiers of the Powers That Be weighs in: "Glenn, Glenn - did you really think there'd be zero consequences for you and those close to you? I expected Ed to believe WL lies, but you?" - John Schindler (@20committee) August 18, 2013 https://twitter.com/20committee/statuses/369169570298208257
My god. The responses are basically saying that they agree with the government kidnapping and robbing the family of a journalist in retaliation for the journalist's legal news coverage.
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Whether it will backfire or not is up to the citizens to decide. But I suspect it won't backfire enough to cause a dent. Maybe in the US, but this is unlikely to make a ripple in the British public sphere. The Snowden story has not been a big deal here and today's news has not had much airtime either (it's not even on the BBC News front page). The majority of Brits don't know about this story, nor are likely to have…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DA-Notice
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My hope is that Greenwald is not that easily provoked into making this a personal affair between himself and some government. That's part of what weakened Julian Assange's position, and I'm pretty sure Greenwald is aware of that.
Brazil has a tit-for-tat policy when it comes to how their citizens are treated. Backpressure could come from all kinds of interesting directions. If this wasn't officially sanctioned from above there will be fall-out.
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That is probably a tad unfair to Canada, Ireland, Jamaica, etc.
Canada's RCMP spied on Amnesty, the Anglican Church and the Raging Grannies. Our secret services gave their American counterparts information that led to torture of Canadian citizens and others. You think we're not part of this totalitarian movement?
Language is not the binding factor here.
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#247I don't think most people in this country will care until they can't buy a new iPhone 6, or Galaxy S 5... What I am really surprised by is how many other countries have tolerated this so far.
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Really? If you talk with any of your non-tech friends about this topic, does a single one of them care? My money is on no. And in the unlikely case the answer is nonzero, the proffered solution is always to vote for "the other guy". It's naiveté at the highest level to think that any meaningful proportion of the electorate cares, and that a single thing will change. If anything, the State now has tacit permission to…
The number of random people who ask me about NSA spying now vs. 6 months ago is huge. The DEA partnership basically won over minorities, drug people, young people. You could probably find ways to make this an anti-immigrant issue in general (spying on foreigners; obviously if you're Muslim or brown, but maybe it could somehow extend to Chinese immigrants too?) Tech people hate it naturally. Business people (other tha…
This is the demographic we need.
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#249As bad as things are in America vis-a-vis the surveillance state, I've always thought that England is actually worse. I guess it explains why they have such a rich history of dystopian thought. When I saw the "Secure beneath the watchful eyes" poster [1] I couldn't believe it wasn't satire. [1] http://i.imgur.com/PS6c0IS.jpg
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My sense from obama's recent remarks is that there is definitely some change under consideration as a result of the snowden revelations and greenwald's important involvement. So I disagree with you pretty strenuously. And I do think more people care about this than you think, both in the tech and non-tech worlds.
Obama is on the record saying that these changes under consideration have nothing whatsoever to do with Snowden, Greenwald or the leaks.