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Re: Modern decor may be straining people's brains

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post #185

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The acoustics of homes with clean walls and floors can also be absolutely miserable. Some small dining rooms amplify all the worst noises and make it terrible to be in, drains your mental battery like few other things.

I’m so glad to see someone else who thinks this. Barren walls, vinyl flooring, 5k Kelvin lights, and scented candles everywhere. It’s like the most miserable consumerist environment imaginable.

There was a reason for those popcorn ceilings and carpeted floors (and it clearly wasn't aesthetics).

Re: Modern decor may be straining people's brains

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“ Eyes and brain alike evolved over millennia to process natural scenes, forests, rivers, coastlines, open skies. These environments share a specific mathematical pattern: their visual complexity decreases predictably as you zoom in on finer and finer details.”

Doesn’t it increase the details in nature due to all the imperfections vs simple patterns made by humans?

Re: Modern decor may be straining people's brains

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post #138

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> Given the widespread practice of man-boy … I have an incredibly hard time believing this piece of scripture is at all misinterpreted. I’m struggling with this statement. Are you saying that Leviticus is actually only anti-pedophile and not anti-gay (and so all these conservative Christian preachers are willfully misrepresenting it), or are you continuing the long tradition of falsely linking homosexuality with pedo…

If you read Mark and the entirety of New Testament in good faith you would know the answer :) It’s your actions and not your culinary habits. If you chose to fornicate you’re sinning. Nothing in the New Testament reneges on that. Intentionally endorsing lifestyles that promote such acts are bad per the scripture. If you don’t believe that and choose to”good feels” and statism as your God, that’s your choice.

> It’s your actions and not your culinary habits.

Is eating no longer an action? Do you not have a choice of what you eat in most circumstances?

Re: Modern decor may be straining people's brains

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A dirt yard is sufficient if it was to show off land. Grass is not required

The grass proves that it's actually fertile lands, and that there's resources for keeping it growing. Historically, using land with such properties for grass instead of crops was as sign of wealth, especially for large estates.

Grass doesn't prove it's fertile before modern fertilizers. Natural grasslands are often resource-poor places that most other plants can't tolerate. We sometimes replace one for the other because our main crops (wheat, maize, rice, sorghum) are all grasses, but e.g. Versailles probably would have had more forests, lakes, or a vineyard if it didn't have the gardens and lawns.

Re: Modern decor may be straining people's brains

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post #94

> Many LED systems use a dimming technique that rapidly switches the light on and off (sometimes hundreds of times per second). While this is invisible as flicker to the naked eye under normal conditions, eye movements can expose it This is what I've always felt too, but if you talk to any lighting "expert", they'll say "no that's simply not the case with LED lighting since the year... 2009 or whatever ...". Highly s…

> ... they'll say "no that's simply not the case with LED lighting since the year... 2009 or whatever ..."

Yeah. Making things even worse is the fact that wear and tear from these things aging can make them really terrible to be in the same room with... but this doesn't seem to be something that folks are generally aware of, and is almost certainly something that approximately no one tests for.

I used to have rock-solid dimmable Cree LED bulbs in my fixtures. When I installed them, they were great. I had them installed for something like five years. I blamed the headaches I had been regularly getting over the previous ~six months on poor diet, exercise... the usual things. After noticing that nights spent with the lights off correlated with reduced or absent headaches, I replaced the bulbs with another highly-regarded brand and model. Other than the occasional caffeine-withdrawl headache, I haven't had a headache since.

I don't know if every LED bulb -er- "wears bad" like this, but I'd be surprised to hear that most of them do not. "The thing still makes light, but gives a notable subset of the population godawful headaches." doesn't seem to be the sort of thing that politicians who are "concerned" about the environment will care much about. That fact would really complicate the "They last for ten+ years, which massively reduces waste!" narrative.

Re: Modern decor may be straining people's brains

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post #50

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What design trends can be attributed to people's desire to pick up and move at a moment notice?

Not having bookcases full of books, for example. My dad's lived in the same house for over 15 years and probably expected as much when he moved in. He has a room with old books covering the walls, which he never reads. If he moved house every year, he'd have to throw out or donate the collection.

You can...move books.

Re: Modern decor may be straining people's brains

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A few small things (from the perspective of the suburbs in a large flyover city), as in most things design the real drivers are usually material driven, and often a byproduct of a trend.

I'll sum up by saying modern interiors feel temporary, where old decor seems permanent in comparison. This leads to you feeling like a hotel guest instead of being home. You have to really work at it to make a modern interior feel like home:

- Modern homes have lots of closet space and storage, so there's little need for "storage furniture like bookshelves, curios, hutches, sideboards and cabinets (you can get $5000+ china cabinets on marketplace for $200 here). When we moved in, I got rid of probably 14 pieces of (mostly beautiful) storage furniture because we just didn't need them. So it's hard to pile up the artifacts of life where they are easy to see and even grab.

- Living areas are large and open, and fantastic for having guests over or a family movie night, but not cozy for a lazy night of reading a book by the fireplace. You have to make a space for this and fight the floorplan to do so.

- Electronics have shrunk, a modern TV is the size of a painting on the wall, and needs only no horizontal space. Likewise, outside of my son's gaming rig, all the computers are laptops, so, out with the beautiful wood desks and in with the modern ergonomic stand-up desk.

As far as the new home went, almost a year later, the areas where we've made effort to put "life on display" feel great - A huge photo wall with shelves for chotskys and nicnaks, a loft decorated with posters and props from my kid's theater productions, an office with a wall covered with photos and guitars. Life is kind of messy. I guess making home a little more like life really helps.

Re: Modern decor may be straining people's brains

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I live in the same house as my grandparent that was renovated twice before each subsequent generation moved in. Each one was performed with the modern standards but with respect to the previous situation. Simple natural colours, like white and brown hue, ample natural light, and functional design based on everyday living routine do not violate the continuity, still not sacrificing modern luxuries. This balance of past and future is what is missing from a cold start with radical ideas.

Re: Modern decor may be straining people's brains

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“ Eyes and brain alike evolved over millennia to process natural scenes, forests, rivers, coastlines, open skies. These environments share a specific mathematical pattern: their visual complexity decreases predictably as you zoom in on finer and finer details.” Doesn’t it increase the details in nature due to all the imperfections vs simple patterns made by humans?

The default visual circuits in our brains may have evolved to optimally handle fractal patterns and textures. Straight lines, geometrical figures and featureless surfaces may require activation of less optimal circuits. Anecdotally, I find being in environments made of featureless geometrical figures uncomfortable to be in.

Re: Modern decor may be straining people's brains

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>Eyes and brain alike evolved over millennia to process natural scenes, forests, rivers, coastlines, open skies. These environments share a specific mathematical pattern: their visual complexity decreases predictably as you zoom in on finer and finer details. Wut? It's precisely the opposite. Natural patterns have infinite complexity as you zoom in, and human-made patterns (most often) not.

Will repeat what I wrote elsewhere:

The default visual circuits in our brains may have evolved to optimally handle fractal patterns and textures. Straight lines, geometrical figures and featureless surfaces may require activation of less optimal circuits. Anecdotally, I find being in environments made of featureless geometrical figures uncomfortable to be in.

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