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Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

NobodyNada wrote: post #224
djaro wrote: post #76

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This is just a great example of people who aren't in content creation fundamentally not understanding the ecosystem. This isn't about "over-produced thumbnail-bait". This is about all high-quality media. You mention Rick Beato. Do you really think Rick Beato sits down behind his laptop to edit his own videos? He has nearly 6 million subscribers and produces around 10 long-form videos per month. He has at the very lea…

> "The Real Reason Music is Getting Worse" As a musician myself, and as someone who enjoys watching music and music theory content on YouTube, I can't stand watching Rick Beato because of stuff like this. There certainly are valid criticisms to be made against the music industry, but those videos are like 90% ridiculous cherry-picked comparisons and vague, superficial justifications. It's low-quality nostalgia-driven…

> It's such a straightforward case of something that would not exist without YouTube's monetization system

I find this to be very insightful.

I said above that Youtube itself created a generation that expects free videos, but it's also true that Youtube has created an industry that expect to make a living from their platform - to the extent that they literally cannot understand the point of view of the 'generation that expects free videos'.

There's obviously room for both since that's the world we live in, but it's interesting to see the two philosophically opposed 'bubbles' interacting with each other.

Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by King-Aaron »

djaro wrote: post #41

As a professional YouTuber, the main issue I instantly see with this is the lack of monetization. I think people who don't make videos for a living severely underestimate how expensive it is to produce high-quality videos people want to watch. This isn't like writing a tweet or even posting a picture on Instagram. Even a decent 20-minute video can easily take 40 man-hours of high-skilled labor. I have a pretty small…

I miss old, grass-roots youtube. I used to be a 'youtuber' back in the very very early days where it was just a case of sharing yourself doing dumb things.

I completely get that it's your job now... But the fact it's become a job for people is probably why I don't like it so much anymore. With all the ads and such too, it's now just television. But worse.

Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by keithnz »

Hilliard_Ohiooo wrote: post #210
catach wrote: post #189

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> This website will die off in a couple years While that might be true, it's worth noting that the project has been running for seven years already. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube

It's hard to discuss things online because the dumb people will make stuff up, then when you correct it they disappear but leave the wrong info up, confusing even more dumb people. Like an idiot-tsunami growing ever larger

this isn't an appropriate response on HN, please read the guidelines on how to conduct yourself https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by zanderwohl »

ndriscoll wrote: post #215
jesse_dot_id wrote: post #98

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Yeah, it's pretty simple. When I go to YouTube.com, I have access to all of the videos on that platform, sorted based on what I'm subscribed to and other things like what I watch. The first thing I see are videos. I'm off to the races. When I go to https://joinpeertube.org , I'm met with a double hero section that tells me about PeerTube, which is ultimately meaningless to 99% of the population. When I get to actual…

This is like complaining that when you go to nginx.org, you aren't shown a bunch of websites or a search box to discover anything, so this web thing is garbage UX compared to the Facebook app. There's no "the federation". There are various sites that run peertube, some of which are federated with each other. Others have nothing to do with each other. Some are probably completely private. An example of federation migh…

That's fine if that's your goal, but don't expect anyone to adopt it then. 99% of people aren't flocking to video platforms for ideological nor technical reasons.

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Post by dockerimage »

mywittyname wrote: post #57
infamia wrote: post #48

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You can publish to both and even better your own domain that simply points to your video hosting provider. Long term you want to own your distribution channel as much as possible, while using YouTube as your lead generation tool to drive true believers to your site and premium distribution channel not owned by YouTube. Otherwise, you will always be subject to platform risk via YouTube's whims which has destroyed many…

Realistically, how many viewers will be retained should YT shut the OP down? Right now, that number rounds to 0. Practically speaking, YT is free internet video streaming for long-form videos on the US market. Nobody is going to go to OP's personal site to watch videos. They are going to fire up YT and eat what the algorithm feeds them. The reason PeerTube and Nebula are important is it provides the potential for a t…

> Nobody is going to go to OP's personal site to watch videos.

Counterpoint: Channels with Patreons with uncensored and pre-release content.

Youtube can't be unseated as the main platform, but you're wildly wrong about the order of operations for what to do beyond your lead audience. No, you want to post on other platforms first, at a premium, and on youtube second. And should Youtube somehow magically evaporate, you just unlock your past premium content so people can find it and you have some degree of word of mouth as content that survived the apocalypse, as a lifeline.

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Post by ssl-3 »

jesse_dot_id wrote: post #98
flaburgan wrote: post #78

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Do you have precise suggestion of what to improve? I'm genuinely interested.

Yeah, it's pretty simple. When I go to YouTube.com, I have access to all of the videos on that platform, sorted based on what I'm subscribed to and other things like what I watch. The first thing I see are videos. I'm off to the races. When I go to https://joinpeertube.org , I'm met with a double hero section that tells me about PeerTube, which is ultimately meaningless to 99% of the population. When I get to actual…

I tried to find some videos by starting at the URL you linked.

I clicked on "Browse content", because that's exactly what I wanted to do: I wanted to browse content.

All I got from that was a needless introduction to an entirely unnecessary cuttlefish named Sepia, and a search box. There was no content to browse; I was lied to.

But there's a note at the bottom about "Peertube instances" with a literal "CLICK >HEREThat click lead to a list of... 25 "Peertube platforms", in one column on the right, even though I clicked >HEREinstances".

There's a written suggestion that I can add filters to find more of these, but that's exactly the opposite of the way that filters have always worked in my world: Filters are reductive, not additive.

Finally, in the left-hand column, is another CLICK >HEREThat link brings me back to the stupid page with Sepia, the iconic cuttlefish, and a search box.

Having been lied to twice (thrice?), I gave up. At this time, I have not yet seen any videos.

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Post by allarm »

djaro wrote: post #80
ndriscoll wrote: post #69

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So? Why is that a problem? My wife occasionally watches this old lady who's vlogged every day for over 14 years straight. She averages 150-200 views. The people who try to build a brand end up getting outsized attention so it seems like that must be what anyone would want, but most people actually aren't trying to do that.

Well, do you want a platform people watch videos on, or a platform people simply upload videos to, never to be seen?

The answer is not that obvious as you might see or imply it.

Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by allarm »

djaro wrote: post #199
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #151

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"As a professional YouTuber, the main issue I instantly see with this is lack of monetization." As a computer user I see that as the main advantage No third party intermediary No advertising Computer users need peer-to-peer options for sharing video with each other that do not use third party advertising companies, e.g., posing as "search engine" or "social media", to transfer the bits Whether PeerTube works well, I…

The problem with this is that creating the content you watch costs a lot of money and labor. As a user I would see a grocery store where everything is free as an advantage... utill the products inevitably run out and no food supplier is willing to stock the shelves for free.

It's not a problem though. There is absolutely no need for “quality content” whose sole or primary purpose is to monetize it. What we’re all missing is hobby content created out of passion, free of ads and all the nonsense that plagues the modern internet. And another thing - there’s absolutely no need to explain here the basic fundamentals of how money and the economy as a whole work, as if it were some kind of revelation. It’s actually better to think about why this approach is in fact problematic. Look at what it did to the world.

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Post by bitwize »

signatoremo wrote: post #216
bitwize wrote: post #120

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YouTubers are now blurring out women's cleavage. Not bare breasts. Cleavage. Nearly all of Pamela Anderson's notable body of work would need to be censored to avoid risking loss of that precious, precious monetization. It's like fucking Iran. And of course you can't say "die", "kill", "suicide", etc. You have to talk like a parody of 80s cartoon censorship—literally. (The neologism "unalive" came from Deadpool in an…

Where are you located? I'm looking as we speak at a bunch of YT videos of women with cleavage, or promoting fashion that involve stripping down to their underwear.

If they're getting sponsorships or just engagement-baiting gooners to get OnlyFans signups, maybe they don't care that much about video monetization. The ones that do are starting to censor cľeavage.
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