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Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model
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Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, this is the classic silicon valley strategy of selling at a loss and then once they have captured the market inflate prices. See Uber, Netflix, etc.
This is a constantly repeated conspiracy theory and is not true at all. The api costs do increase but aggregate costs per task decrease. The question is: do people need lower intelligence models at all? The answer is a resounding NO! How many people do you see using haiku or sonnet? I see very few and most people default to the latest model and just play with thinking effort. I think three layers are good enough and…
I... use them all the time: plan with a more advanced model, build with a cheaper one. Anthropic literally packages a metamodel (opusplan) for that pattern.
Also: calling the SV blitzscaling strategy of using VC money to fund loss leader products with the goal of building a monopoly via dumping a conspiracy is quite the position given there's entire books written in the topic...
Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model
#243I think GPT writes code the best. How well will it write in version 5.6? It gives me chills. Recently, I went head-to-head with GPT on nearly 2,000 lines of code, and GPT's solution was superior and faster. I even referenced multiple codebases on GitHub while trying, but they were incomparable to GPT. So using GPT brings both fear and excitement. The fear comes from realizing that this level of code is now the averag…
Is it possible for you to provide examples? What were you trying to solve? What was your solution and why was GPT's solution superior and faster?
Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model
#244whoa, a new model that surpasses benchmarks of other models? wild.
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#245Here is a trend I'm noticing: - GPT-5 mini costs $0.25/$2 and will be discontinued in December. - GPT-5.4 mini costs $0.75/$4.5 and is supposed to be the replacement. - GPT-5.4 nano costs $0.2/$1.25 and, while it ranks better in benchmarks than GPT-5 mini, it's not even close when you test it in real scenarios. So you're left being forced to go to GPT 5.4 mini if you use 5 mini today. The same thing is happening here…
I think it's more that they're abandoning simpler AI tasks to chinese models. Qwen 35b and deepseek flash are better than gp5 mini on my tasks and way cheaper.
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#246TLDR - It's not quite Mythos but it uses about 5 times less tokens, and those tokens are also cheaper?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLwuJLvbwAAOfQZ?format=jpg&name=...
Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model
#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, this is the classic silicon valley strategy of selling at a loss and then once they have captured the market inflate prices. See Uber, Netflix, etc.
This is a constantly repeated conspiracy theory and is not true at all. The api costs do increase but aggregate costs per task decrease. The question is: do people need lower intelligence models at all? The answer is a resounding NO! How many people do you see using haiku or sonnet? I see very few and most people default to the latest model and just play with thinking effort. I think three layers are good enough and…
Are you only considering coding use cases?
Many enterprise use cases, such as simple data extraction, are well served by cheaper models.
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#249"Next generation model" If it was the next generation, why isn't it a major version change..?
If they called it 6.0 and it wasn't AGI, you'd see a lot of complaining here too
Re: Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
But you have multiple providers, not just one.
And every single one of those providers would buckle under government pressure. Fable itself is hosted on all major cloud providers. How many offer it today?
This seems a little fanciful.
There's really no comparison between a model that Anthropic allows Google and Amazon to host with one that has been downloaded hundreds of thousands of times and has dozens of public inference providers.