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do you expect there to be logic behind it?
I hope there isn't, because if there is, it has a lot of implications that are unpleasant to think about.
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>The US fought and lost a war and Iran comes out ahead, and the US and its allies come out worse and poorer. That is also fake news. The US did not lose the war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_war
> That is also fake news. You keep using those words, but it's clear you don't know what they mean (or what anything means). Enjoy your trolling.
Don't project your inability to discern fake news on others.
>(or what anything means)
Cringe.
>Enjoy your trolling.
Enjoy your fake news delusions.
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>We haven't seen the agreement yet. Which why the $300 million claim is fake news.
That 300 billion number came from JD Vance. Do you think he lied, or what?
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#246As a physical oceanographer, the destruction of these observing systems is horrific. It is hard to stress enough how intentionally OMB is trying to disassemble American science. The new (proposed) OMB guidelines prohibit international collaboration without pre approval for example. They also codify a political grant approval process. https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/05/the-office-of-manage... Additionally, OMB is…
The elected reps are captured by business interests. Citizens united means the best marketing team wins every election. The reps do not work for citizens, why would they? Voting has been nullified, democracy is dead.
This started as an Aristocracy with well meaning participants but its evolved into an Oligarchy just as anacyclosis[1] predicts. The next stage is Democracy and then that, eventually, crumbles into mob rule (Ochlocracy).
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Wow that quote is the most useless bullshit bunch of words I've seen strung together recently. It says a whole lot of nothing in the most insulting way possible. Must have been written by a highly paid consultant.
> Must have been written by a highly paid consultant. ChatGPT?
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#248As a physical oceanographer, the destruction of these observing systems is horrific. It is hard to stress enough how intentionally OMB is trying to disassemble American science. The new (proposed) OMB guidelines prohibit international collaboration without pre approval for example. They also codify a political grant approval process. https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/05/the-office-of-manage... Additionally, OMB is…
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There's a lot of collateral damage that could have been avoided if millions weren't being squandered on dubious "science" like studying grooming habits of trans aboriginals in the Central African Republic (a made-up scenario, but there are many like it). At some point the baby's going to be thrown out with the bath water until the course is corrected.
Aren't you in any way concerned that you can't give a real example of the sort of thing you're talking about, and have to make one up? This should be the wake-up call that makes you re-evaluate your priors. The reality is that reactionaries often describe "useless" scientific endeavors like "condoms for worms" that end up being the only thing stopping parasitic screwworms from infesting the US cattle herd, which will…
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The primary goal of authoritarianism is consolidation of power among a small number of elites. Anything that can reduce that power is an enemy. The essential weakness that the powerful elites have is that they are, by definition, outnumbered. So in order to consolidate and maintain power, they need to disturb any system that the masses can use to coordinate and form collective action. (It's a kid's movie, but Hopper'…
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