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Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Recommendations? What are you reading? I recently enjoyed a few books of the "We are Legion, We are Bob" series

Here are our top ~500 English picture books from Open Library that my kids liked enough that we've read at least twice.

The quality of the scans are usually poor and occasionally pages are missing and many have been removed. It's been great for us.

https://openlibrary.org/people/duiznwudidj/books/want-to-rea...

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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We recently had some behavior issues with our kids - they didn't want to do activities outside the house, they hated reading, they hated anything that required even the slightest discomfort or effort. We decided to cut device usage way down - they get 1 hour in the morning to play whatever games they want on computer, tablet, console. Then they get 1 hour before bed to watch TV. The rest of the day, no devices. We ar…

Absolutely. I was homeschooled growing up, and my parents were fairly strict about screentime. We read anything we could get our hands on, and I feel like I'm a happier, healthier adult today because of it.

While I'm now on my phone too much, and I don't read fiction as much as I used to, I'm grateful for those foundations.

The friction and discomfort that come from reading/exercising/learning/growing is so important, and I hope we can find a healthier balance for the next generation.

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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This is something i actually found chatgpt useful for. I gave it a list of books ive read and why i liked them, it gave me a list, some minimal summaries. I went and did some searches, read the back, told chatgpt my thoughts and it refined the list once more. It was able to turn me to an author of a number of scifi books that really piqued my interest. One of them it prefaced with "dont read tue summaries" which i th…

In high school I was at a friend’s house. Half of the bookshelf was filled with books I loved and the other half with books I’d never heard of! I felt like a prospector striking gold :) Cool to think that we have something similar on demand now!

Oh and the best author from that discovery was hands down Garth Nix. I love the Abhorsen series!

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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We recently had some behavior issues with our kids - they didn't want to do activities outside the house, they hated reading, they hated anything that required even the slightest discomfort or effort. We decided to cut device usage way down - they get 1 hour in the morning to play whatever games they want on computer, tablet, console. Then they get 1 hour before bed to watch TV. The rest of the day, no devices. We ar…

> asking to do things outside like learning to ride bikes

They sound deprived, why haven't you got them a bike if you're complaining about screen time?

> It's such a huge difference. It is the devices. It's 100% the devices.

You sound like you're convincing yourself here.

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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We recently had some behavior issues with our kids - they didn't want to do activities outside the house, they hated reading, they hated anything that required even the slightest discomfort or effort. We decided to cut device usage way down - they get 1 hour in the morning to play whatever games they want on computer, tablet, console. Then they get 1 hour before bed to watch TV. The rest of the day, no devices. We ar…

Absolutely. I was homeschooled growing up, and my parents were fairly strict about screentime. We read anything we could get our hands on, and I feel like I'm a happier, healthier adult today because of it. While I'm now on my phone too much, and I don't read fiction as much as I used to, I'm grateful for those foundations. The friction and discomfort that come from reading/exercising/learning/growing is so important…

You're on a screen right now. I like how all these parents decrying the evils of screentime dont think they should get off it themselves.

I watched Harvey price, a fairly famous autistic person in the UK edit his own video on an iPad, adding sounds etc. I think that's fantastic self directed learning and it came from, shock horror, a screen. I think this anti-screen sentiment is hysteria, plain and simple.

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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post #157

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It's not even just kids, this is true for all people to be honest. Not saying we should go back to an agrarian society but maybe unrestricted access to dopamine slot machines isn't a good idea for your brain.

I had a really effective inoculation against the Skinner box 20+ years ago, when I became addicted to an MMO. It took my life utterly turning to shit and barely escaping being kicked out of university for me to wake up. Since, I’ve always been aware of and wary of the possibility of this kind of dopamine cycling. I see it in others. My wife discovered YouTube shorts a year or so ago, and now she’ll lose entire days t…

Yet you're still sat writing mini essays to strangers because of the dopamine hit....

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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We recently had some behavior issues with our kids - they didn't want to do activities outside the house, they hated reading, they hated anything that required even the slightest discomfort or effort. We decided to cut device usage way down - they get 1 hour in the morning to play whatever games they want on computer, tablet, console. Then they get 1 hour before bed to watch TV. The rest of the day, no devices. We ar…

You may have noticed the same behavioural issues amongst your adult friends or at times in yourself. I know I have. Anytime I give up doom scrolling for a week or two I feel instantly less anxious about the world and everything going on around me. Social media is a plague and will likely be looked on by the psychiatric/medical professional as extremely harmful in years to come. Something akin to smoking.

> Social media is a plague and will likely be looked on by the psychiatric/medical professional as extremely harmful in years to come.

Not only will it not, autism will not last more than 25 years in it's current form. I bet money on both of those

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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We recently had some behavior issues with our kids - they didn't want to do activities outside the house, they hated reading, they hated anything that required even the slightest discomfort or effort. We decided to cut device usage way down - they get 1 hour in the morning to play whatever games they want on computer, tablet, console. Then they get 1 hour before bed to watch TV. The rest of the day, no devices. We ar…

It’s devices but also parents. If parents don’t read books everyday, kids won’t either.

Why can't you read from a screen instead? Why do all the benefits of reading seemingly disappear when read from a display screen?

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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It's worse than this. I have kids in school. Our school system is one of the top in Connecticut, which is the quintessential "school" state (if any rich kid on TV goes away to school, it's probably to CT). These kids (all of them, not mine) can't really read. Not like when I was young. (I'm not even old! I graduated in the 2000's!) They certainly can't write. They have no stamina to do an essay or a test like when I…

At the risk of a flamewar I want to say that I still don't accept audiobooks as a 100% drop in replacement for actually reading. I know a lot of millenials my age who insist that listening to an audiobook while is completely the same as actually sitting down and focusing without distractions on a paper book for hours. But it isn't! Firstly, much is lost without seeing the formatting of the page, and without being abl…

You're right that a lot of material really does require a physical book. Anything even remotely technical.

That said, I would argue that a voice actor is far more significant than page formatting when it comes to novels. A good voice actor can turn a good story great, and sometimes a poor story to... acceptable.

I've read thousands of novels over the decades, both with and without audio, so I'm reasonably confident about the above.

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not even just kids, this is true for all people to be honest. Not saying we should go back to an agrarian society but maybe unrestricted access to dopamine slot machines isn't a good idea for your brain.

I had a really effective inoculation against the Skinner box 20+ years ago, when I became addicted to an MMO. It took my life utterly turning to shit and barely escaping being kicked out of university for me to wake up. Since, I’ve always been aware of and wary of the possibility of this kind of dopamine cycling. I see it in others. My wife discovered YouTube shorts a year or so ago, and now she’ll lose entire days t…

20 years ago? Aahh, good old World of Warcraft is my guess. Played far too much far too long myself.
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