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MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Post by emp_ »

onesociety2022 wrote: post #111

Apart from the price, I think what's really attracting people to the Neo are the cool colors. I was at an Apple Store a couple of weeks ago trying to buy a M5 MacBook Air and I was eavesdropping on the conversations going on next to me from people looking at the Neo. Almost all of it was positive and people really love the colors! I suspect Apple is going to cannibalize some MBA sales with the Neo because I'm recomme…

> I suspect Apple is going to cannibalize some MBA sales with the Neo ...

Hopefully it allows for the macbook air to return to being a ultra light machine, I held an Asus X14 ARM at 900 grams and it felt so much better.

There's also a huge market for the M1 MacBook Air because of the old form factor of being ultra thin even if faking it with bending the shell, the boxed layouts dont fit with MBA to me. Too bad there is no 15 2021 M1.

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Post by Thlom »

xp84 wrote: post #157
nozzlegear wrote: post #38

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> The thing about Apple is that as the "IT" guy for my family, its ecosystem is the one which needs the least attention from me. Same here. Whenever a family member asks which kind of device they should buy, I just tell them to get the Apple device. They're going to come to me if they ever need help with it, and that happens an order of magnitude less with Apple stuff. Plus, I don't even know how to do anything in Wi…

They added a second right-click menu in Explorer now. IDK if this is Windows 11 or if 10 had this. When you right-click a file, you get a shorter menu with a larger font. But it might not have the option you want -- you have to click "Show more options" at the bottom. Then it lags for 1 second (this is a Core Ultra 9 with 64GB of RAM btw) and opens a new one, with the old font metrics, and that one also has all the t…

I'm on win11 at work and when I right click in explorer it loads the normal menu but then immediately populates the menu with more options. It takes just long enough before it populates more options for you to maybe click on something which has then moved to somewhere else. Extremely annoying.

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Post by arjie »

Got my and my wife's parents all-in on iPhone + Macbook Air/Pro + Watch (with a single iPad Pro) and honestly it's been fantastic. Only problem is that they forget a password here and there and I just have that in my password manager. After that, the ecosystem is just super convenient: watch finds their phone, find my friends has their/our location, Facetime dials in pretty easily.

Honestly, the problem with the Apple ecosystem is that hooking it up into a machine is annoying, so our claw-like has to be on a Mac Mini. But apart from that, everything is pretty good.

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Post by taude »

I bought one: I was hesitant about the 8 GB of memory at first. But I'm happily running Chrome with like 20 tabs and some other apps, and performance isn't an issue.

It's mostly a couch laptop.

I run Obsidean, messaging apps, writing tools. I use some CLI toolings...

I really wanted a Framework 12, but I got $180 credit on a ipad AIR 4, and sold a 2017 Macbook Pro for $150 (US), so that effectively made this a 280 upgrade, and reduced the risk in me going for it.

I love this thing.

* love the keyboard, it’s such an improvement over the older laptops. Worth getting rid of that old Macbook Pro for this alone

* Keyboard isn’t backlit. Thought that would be annoying, but i’m good enough touch typist that in the dark, i can still navigate around no problem.

* Lack of touch sensor. I just turned off most security prompting, like passwords when filling in websites, etc. and just rely on typing my password in once when logging on. On my todo is to turn on authentication from my Apple Watch, might make not having a touchid a non-issue.

* The screen!

Did I say I love the form factor?

I still wish it was shaped like my former favorite computer: the 11" Macbook Air, with the tapered edges and such.

I'm optimistic that the next version of Framework 12 will have better screen and be a nice aluminum body...but until then.....

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Post by havaloc »

kasey_junk wrote: post #122
elorant wrote: post #104

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There’s nothing baffling to it. Windows PCs are upgradable. Apple won’t even give you a PCie slot on its $10k mac studio ultra to install a better network card or whatever.

I have never, in 30 years, working across big companies and small, had a computer hardware upgrade. It’s _always_ just a new box.

Agreed, the only time I did upgrades on boxes is swapping out spinning disks for SSD, that saved me a whole upgrade cycle it was such an improvement.

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Post by GeekyBear »

riffraff wrote: post #56
asdff wrote: post #42

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The ram is the real sticking point honestly. Yes they are more powerful but consider people's use case. My 2012 dual core mbp is still performant for what most people use their computers for: internet, email, office suite, etc. And I shoved 16gb RAM in that thing 10 years ago. I guess they will just swap on the fast ssd so it will be alright.

> I guess they will just swap on the fast ssd so it will be alright but that should cause extra wear on the SSD, or is this no longer a concern?

There wouldn't be so many people who see no need to upgrade their M1 series computers if this were a real concern.

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Post by havaloc »

wil421 wrote: post #59
sgt wrote: post #36

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I figured this out around 2005. Get your entire company on Mac, get your entire family on Mac. Your life will have zero support calls, maybe outside of the intial "How do I install an app" which seems to confuse some people.

The desktop support people agreed at my last job said MACs was more expensive upfront but less hardware faults and RMA for devices that were dead on delivery. They also had less support calls after new users learned the platform. The business said hell no we would rather pay less upfront.

Now Mac is almost the same if not cheaper up front, and in the long run too. It's a wild thing to see.

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Post by Aperocky »

OskarS wrote: post #10
no_wizard wrote: post #3

I’m not shocked in the slightest. Great price point for younger folks to buy or be given as a gift, the build quality is good for what it is and it is snappy for most uses. It’s many years too late IMO but I suppose the economics only made sense once they controlled their own chipset. I imagine doing this in the intel days would have been a far worse choice

Not even young people: I have a very expensive MacBook Pro M5 i got from work, but my personal laptop is old and needs replacing. I’m a well-paid senior software developer and could afford any computer I wanted. But the MacBook Neo is a top contender even for me. I mostly need something for like editing documents, hobby coding and watching YouTube videos. It runs Codex or Gemini-CLI fine. For the price point, it seem…

Hell, I have a personal macbook m4 pro and I still wanted one.

I got the m4 pro when it first got out, but on restrospect I really should have gotten either:

1. A max spec max + 128GB ram for local models. 2. an air with 15 inch for max comfort.

And I settled in the middle regret land.

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Post by osigurdson »

porridgeraisin wrote: post #165
RZelaya wrote: post #50

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Once the Apple Silicon Macs came out, I converted my whole family from PC to Mac because the price to performance finally made sense. I'm the resident tech support for my family and some friends, so having them all playing in the Mac ecosystem made it way easier. My mom's fiance had a $3,000 Windows laptop for doing video editing. And I convinced him to get a $600 base M1 Mac Mini when they were new and he has never…

The price thing is really true. My current laptop i got at 48000 INR student discount (retailer at 65000) (the older HP Pavilion Aero 13inch). It's great 950g, 16gb ram, etc etc. still works well. this was many years ago. During this time macbooks were 90000 INR, and M1 was just coming out. Now the next era of laptops are all 1 lakh NR. Including the windows ones. Importantly, the mac is still 1 lakh. So it makes no…

It hurts, but I'll pay a premium for worse hardware that will run Linux. But for others in my family Macbooks are just far better value by a wide margin than Windows laptops. Vertical integration really wins these days.
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