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DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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I tried it with Claude Code for a while but lack of WebSearch tool became a dealbreaker for me. Does anyone know of they will provide support for it?

You can integarte a search mcp server. I use it this way and it works flawlessly well.

I don't know why I didn't of this before. Thanks for the suggestion.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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If DS4flash works for your case, then https://tensorix.ai/pricing is offering at pretty much the same rates as deepseek themselves, with EU data residency and guarantees.

That is not correct. I talked about Pro. Cortecs.ai is routing to Tensorix btw. DS$ Pro on Tensorix. That is not exactly cheap. Input:$1.75 / 1M tokens Output:$3.50 / 1M tokens

Yep, that's why I said, if DS4Flash works for you.

From what I've read online, people have reported that DS4Flash-xHigh works even better than DS4Pro-xHigh .. so, you can try. No harm in trying :)

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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I have been using deepseek via deepinfra, afaik they provide no data retention. Im probably going to deploy the full model on their infra instead of paying credits at some point, so far the experience has been pretty good

But do these prices apply if you use a third party go-between? I would expect they then charge their own prices?

In that scenario others host the model, not DeepSeek themselves, so they indeed charge their own prices.

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Yes - the model is REALLY good. I try Claude at work and Deepseek personally and this is the only model that works without trying to actively bankcrypt me.

Perhaps unintentional, but I find 'bankrypt' to be a thoroughly interesting portmonteau. I'm not sure if it's when you run out of crypto, or when your bank gets hit by ransomeware.

I thought of it as crypt in the sense of "underground vault that acts a a burial place". So, not just ensuring you're bankrupt but with maybe a chance to start over, but "bankrypt", so bankrupt that they make sure you're buried.

Either way, something interesting about that accidental misspelling. It will probably become someone's band name one day.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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This looks suspiciously cheap. The same model hosted by other providers is much more expensive [0]. So either DeepSeek can host it much cheaper than anyone else, or their business model is different. I suspect the latter, especially since their privacy policy [1] says personal data, including “User Input,” can be used "To improve and develop the Services and to train and improve our technology" . [0]: https://openrou…

Probably a dumb question, but looking at OpenRouter, are there really no providers outside of the US, Singapore and China offering DeepSeek? It seems like such an obvious thing for a European or other Western provider to offer. I'm sure it's a quantum leap ahead of Mistral.

I'd love to give these models a try, but I'd rather not use a provider that trains on or stores my data (beyond standard legal requirements of course).

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Earlier this week I started testing Chinese models on my codebase. I haven’t really looked at interactive coding yet, but more at issue triage, bug auto-fixing, log analytics, etc. I used DeepSeek, Kimi, GLM, Qwen, and MiMO against GPT-5.5 high as reference, all running in Pi harness without anything installed. So far, Kimi and MiMO look the most promising to me. I haven’t tested them rigorously enough to make a stro…

maybe i need to give it second chance, surprisingly Kimi 2.6 consistently fail even to generate valid json plan, where gemma 4 was doing really good, but slow.

Are you going through OpenRouter or direct? I’ve had nothing short of excellent results from Kimi.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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They may be state backed, in which case the loss-leading could be a geopolitical move. It's a useful model regardless.

China sell lithium at a loss to make it unprofitable for Australian/US miners, for example (https://www.miningweekly.com/article/china-is-oversupplying-...).

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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DeepSeek's official privacy policy explicitly states: “To provide you with our services, we directly collect, process and store your Personal Data in the People's Republic of China.”

US companies dont sell AI services in China (as far as I know) but deepseek markets to US companies and customers.

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If you have not tried DeepdeekV4 you're missing out. The pricing makes it unbelievably good. The chains of thought for Deepseek are very very interesting reads. Open code won't show them but do read them and you'll be surprised at how underrated the model is. My model usage is very low but I still do pay directly to Deepseek regularly as my tribute and contribution to them open sourcing their models as my gratitude a…

It’s good and cheap, but don’t talk about politics to it or it might trigger some sort of censorship rule. You can see it think, then suddenly erase everything and suggest to switch to another subject, without explaining anything. I also had it output some sort of generic message about how the news outlets are in the service of the people. Both times I was surprised because I didn’t make any sensitive requests, neith…

do most people use llms to chat about politics?
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