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Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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Post by culopatin »

AlienRobot wrote: post #152
xerox13ster wrote: post #21

I have been using Vivaldi since it was an alpha build. It is the best browser hands down IMO. I have been here for the entire ride. I am so glad to see that there is not AI bundled in this release, which has been a major concern for me when anticipating future releases of this browser. I hope they keep it up.

Vivaldi is the only browser I feel actually has features. Built-in RSS client, mail client, vertical tabs, workspaces, notes, saved sessions, tab groups, side by side tabs, profiles, etc. To put more simply, just look at how many preferences its preference dialog has compared to other browsers. It feels like nobody else is even doing anything except coming up with a new CSS property nobody is going to use every 3 mon…

Does it have a torrent client like Opera did? I really miss that browser

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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Post by tomhow »

erxam wrote: post #192
swed420 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox is controlled opposition practically owned by Google. Follow the money. Ladybird seems to be the only hope, once available.

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Please don't post attacks on people's character like this on HN. It's fine to share information about people that are relevant to the discussion, but please keep it to dispassionate sharing of material facts rather than venomous slurs like this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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Post by self_awareness »

BrenBarn wrote: post #220

> Vivaldi 8.0: our biggest design overhaul, ever > If you have been using Vivaldi for years, you have your setup exactly as you want it and you would not trade it for anything. The thing so many software makers seem to not understand is that if I have been using something for years and have my setup exactly as I want it, then I do not want any overhauls.

True, but long term users often do not understand that if a project that is expected to make money doesn't try to acquire new userbase, it stops being relevant fast.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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Post by replwoacause »

nathanmills wrote: post #238
sys_64738 wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Vivaldi team have a long history of closed source browser development. I mean I was using Opera almost 30 years ago so I don't have any concerns about it being closed source. But you do you.

That makes it worse, not better.

Not everything needs to be open source.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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Post by dmos62 »

Barbing wrote: post #156
dmos62 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ran into broken printing when I was trying to turn web pages into PDFs. Both Chrome and Firefox couldn't "print" without breaking layout.

Tried Print Edit WE? “Recommended” extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/print-edit-we...

That's not really the problem I was having. My problem was that HTML+CSS wasn't being properly rendered. A web page of same dimensions as the printed page would have different layout.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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Post by meixger »

There are some very annoying bugs or quirks unfixed since years. I tried very hard to like Vivaldi, but it is impossible to use it as a web developer. "If DevTools in focus not possible to switch to another browser tab with CTRL+TAB" or "Text input loosing focus after switching tabs" are some examples.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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Post by BrenBarn »

self_awareness wrote: post #243
BrenBarn wrote: post #220

> Vivaldi 8.0: our biggest design overhaul, ever > If you have been using Vivaldi for years, you have your setup exactly as you want it and you would not trade it for anything. The thing so many software makers seem to not understand is that if I have been using something for years and have my setup exactly as I want it, then I do not want any overhauls.

True, but long term users often do not understand that if a project that is expected to make money doesn't try to acquire new userbase, it stops being relevant fast.

The big-picture view of what you're saying is "anything that does not expand dies", and I think that is a fundamental problem with the way our society works. It should be possible to succeed by just remaining stable.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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Post by self_awareness »

BrenBarn wrote: post #248
self_awareness wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but long term users often do not understand that if a project that is expected to make money doesn't try to acquire new userbase, it stops being relevant fast.

The big-picture view of what you're saying is "anything that does not expand dies", and I think that is a fundamental problem with the way our society works. It should be possible to succeed by just remaining stable.

It's not always about expansion but sometimes can be just about rotation.

People lose interest, people change, people die. Software is a reflection of user problems, and users are alive, therefore software must adapt. Software from 1960s can't solve problems of people from 2020s, even if the concept is the same, the binary format is different - OSes are different today. The same solutions had to be adapted to new environment just because the environment has changed.

If we'll stop trying to find new users and we'll only try to retain old ones, we automatically have a declining userbase. This is not healthy for any software project, any country, any group.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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Post by [deleted] »

agotterer wrote: post #104

I used Vivaldi for many years and was a huge advocate. The problem for me was the browser got too bloated and buggy. They kept adding functionality that for me wasn’t necessary. For example: built in Proton VPN support, calendars, email functionality, notes, a game arcade. I don’t want any of that bundled in my browser. I want my browser to be lite weight. I eventually switched to Edge a few years ago because it was…

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