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Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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Re: Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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14 years of support for a device is pretty incredible.

you think? i can bring up my 40 yrs old NES and it works every time.

You can just as easily insert an NES cartridge today as when it launched, and you can just as easily copy a .mobi file over USB to a Kindle as when it launched, both without using the internet.

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+1. It seems like there is just a vocal minority who complain about the missing HW buttons etc. I’m sure Amazon has enough actual customer data to make their product decisions based on what moves the most volume.

Just like the 3.5mm headphone jack, which a very vocal bunch of people are still complaining about, 10 years after iPhone got rid of it.

I recently had to do a flight without my headphones, because they had discharged because the switch had got jostled and activated in my luggage. 10 years on, we're still running into the disadvantages of losing 3.5mm headphones, so of course there's complaints.

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This reminds me of the time we needed to support IE6.

We only had to, because some buerocrats certified IE6 for some processes and did not bother to update with the real world that moved beyond that piece of garbage. So ... thanks for bringing back bad memories.

Gives me PTSD too!

Re: Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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moved to kobo (the nice one with colour screen) with calibre web running behind a cloudflare tunnel, getting books direct through smallest publishers/authors. Adds the tiniest bit of friction in book acquisition but reading experience, battery life, everything else shits on my kindle experience (and I’ve owned every one).

Please mention that color e-ink has significantly lower contrast than black and white. I thought I did enough research, but was bitten by this caveat- I would trade basically any feature for more contrast. On the plus side, with your setup, you can have the lowest friction ebook experience possible on planet Earth by installing koreader, and then the z-library plugin.

There are some tablets with RLCD screens that have decent colors and contrast (not quite as good as 300dpi eink, but close, with color and fast updates), but most w/color screens lack proper frontlights for some reason, and they all run android so it's a bit of a mixed bag compared to a proper Kobo/Pocketbook/Linux eink tablet, but having a decent browser on a reflective display without having to cross-compile for 32-bit ARM linux is great.

Re: Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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> hardly anyone else uses DRM these days anymore I thought that all the major ebook stores had DRM on most purchases, and it was just a few indie publishers choosing to be DRM-free. Has that changed?

It hasn't changed, and I don't know why people are saying that most books don't have DRM. It is only a small minority. Tor books is the largest publisher without it (owned by Macmillan). Otherwise everything is truly hard DRM either ACSM with epub or Kindle's. They are both more or less easily defeated though.

Kobo does carry DRM-free books, and I've never encountered DRM on any books I bought directly from authors' or publishers' websites either.

Re: Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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moved to kobo (the nice one with colour screen) with calibre web running behind a cloudflare tunnel, getting books direct through smallest publishers/authors. Adds the tiniest bit of friction in book acquisition but reading experience, battery life, everything else shits on my kindle experience (and I’ve owned every one).

What software do you use on the device itself? I recently got a Kobo Clara HD, but software support seems to be a big issue.

On one hand, there's folks using the vendor's OS, which looks like an abandoned custom-made Linux distro, where compiling anything is a nightmare. It's not really made to be hackable, but just to read books purchased via their partners.

OTOH, there's a near-mainline kernel, which works nicely, and hacking on the device becomes much nicer, but e-reader-oriented software seems to commonly rely on kernel APIs only present in the vendor's abandoned fork, and won't work on a more mainline Linux. But this is a great target for actually developing stuff.

I'm tempted to write my own minimal e-reader-focused DE, but honestly, I don't want another project on my hands and would like to use something that's already there.

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No amount of "getting used to buttonless" can keep a touchscreen from registering water droplets as touch. So until they can figure out how to make touch screen work in those conditions, any device released without page turn buttons is useless to me. It's not a preference thing for me. It's simply a physical requirement for my environment. Yes, I do understand I'm a rather niche use-case and don't really expect them…

Yes, this is exactly what I’m talking about.

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Why 15 years? Why should I ever have to accept things getting worse? Isn't the point of progress that things get better ? There's multiple touch zones (which aren't visible or marked), there's multiple gestures you can interact with, and it's so slow and janky enough that you never know what will happen when you touch it. Will it go forwards? Or backwards? By one page? Or a dozen? Will it open the settings? Or change…

Kindles are much cheaper today than they were 15 years ago (adjusted for inflation). Seems like progress!

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I’m no better than anyone. I was using the other persons definition where it seems there is no illegitimate criticism. I honestly think anybody crying that there aren’t buttons on a kindle needs to come to terms with reality and move on with their life.

"Crying" is needlessly dismissive and it doesn't strengthen your position. I'm happy there is a mass of popular sentiment that consumer devices are better with buttons. I think they're to whom we can credit the return (or addition of new) buttons to cars, to phones, and to all manner of appliances (induction stoves, thermostats, ACs.) In either case, it looks like the last Kindle with buttons disappeared only late 20…

> I'm happy there is a mass of popular sentiment that consumer devices are better with buttons

There is not. It’s the same 11 people who have a hobby of posting online about how much they miss buttons.

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I’m no better than anyone. I was using the other persons definition where it seems there is no illegitimate criticism. I honestly think anybody crying that there aren’t buttons on a kindle needs to come to terms with reality and move on with their life.

> I’m no better than anyone. > dismisses user wishes and calls people “vocal crybabies” I’m honestly amazed how someone can lack so much self-awareness.

I’m not amazed by it!
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