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Re: New research suggests people can communicate and practice skills while dreaming

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Post by dwoldrich »

krzat wrote: post #196
gloomyday wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once had a very weird experience on LSD (of course), in which I perceived my brain and thinking as a bunch of separate entities working in synchrony. Only two of them were capable of speech, and some were very simple and reactive. The "me" part was just them agreeing on stuff. I will never forget the experience.

Sounds right. I wonder why it is so hard to notice in regular everyday consciousness.

I think we're experiencing the world like seeing through a pinhole. It's all too much to take in and process, so we've got most of it filtered out just to keep it manageable. But, that mental filter doesn't stop all of reality from interacting with us, and it's possible to remove or tweak the filter, clearly.

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Post by tantalor »

8note wrote: post #127

"communicate" seems like the really interesting part of this, but gets a one-off mention only. like, how does this communication work? how does one sleeping person communicate skills to another sleeping person? have we found the mechanism? was it awake poeple communicating to sleeping people? the reverse?

You ever talk with a person who was sleep walking? It's hilarious

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Post by WhyIsItAlwaysHN »

mr-wendel wrote: post #111

I was at my first real software job and we had an in-house system to provide automated installers for common open-source applications for our end-users. After I started getting familiar with it I had a dream one night that certain input fields (which were very common) could be rather easily exploited to inject shell commands with root access. I woke up convinced that it was a real bug, went to work the next day, and…

My experience was with building a new computer. I had gotten all of the parts needed to completely upgrade my pc, keeping only the case.After installing all of them, the computer refused to boot and just showed a generic error with a blinking light. I tried multiple things to troubleshoot like taking out each ram stick, different hdd, reseating cables, different hdd, change to internal gpu, nothing worked.

Then I fell asleep and when I woke up in the morning, I had a very strong feeling that the issue was definitely the memory and I had to move the ram to the set of slots for the other channel. And that was the issue, broken slots.

What's impressive is not that it worked, but that after waking up I had no doubt that was the problem, even though practically I couldn't conciously identify why I was so confident about it.

Re: New research suggests people can communicate and practice skills while dreaming

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Post by Geee »

aeve890 wrote: post #238
Geee wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if this is related to getting banned from the DMT realm.

>getting banned from the DMT realm Never heard of this before. Is it a real thing? I mean, in the context of psychedelics experiencies. I've tried DMT a few times expecting the legendary all-healing trip everyone talks about but never worked.

There are lots of people who say that they've been banned from the DMT realm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCDntV81Q8A&t=522s

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Post by Diti »

timwis wrote: post #198

I've had some incredible product ideas while asleep, down to very intricate technical detail. The problem has been that when I wake up, reality kicks in, and I realise that, say, even if I built that incredible messenger app for dogs, they still wouldn't be able to communicate with us.

If you’re interested in prototyping something, the buttons Christina Hunger sells are able to send webhooks. I made a Telegram bot for receiving messages “typed” by my golden. (She’s less than one year old, so the sentences she makes are really basic.)

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

dwoldrich wrote: post #234
dwoldrich wrote: post #165

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Nothing I recall from my 30's, but in my 20's I worked in videogames and that was a brutal industry at that time in terms of work-life balance. (Or, at least it sounds better nowadays.) Bad sleep habits at that time ultimately led me to do a lot of daytime napping. During those sessions I occasionally experienced sleep paralysis, one out of body waking dream, and disturbing stuff like hearing head-splitting trumpet s…

Actually, I do remember one episode in my late 30's. My wife had twins. They were born extremely premature and there was a good chance they'd both die as we were at the extreme end of the survivability chart at that time - like by a single day of gestation and with one less day we were in the "recommend do not resuscitate" zone. Most compressed time of anguish I've ever experienced, stunned me for years. Both boys' b…

I had a similar experience (seeing blobs) where in my sleep I saw my baby boy conceived. A few days later my wife took a pregnancy test and it came back negative, I was majorly let down as I had this vision and strong feeling there was a baby.

A week later my wife misses her period and she is pregnant. It turns out my vision is more accurate than the 99% accurate pregnancy test.

I never had a similar vision since.

Re: New research suggests people can communicate and practice skills while dreaming

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Post by zelphirkalt »

mr-wendel wrote: post #111

I was at my first real software job and we had an in-house system to provide automated installers for common open-source applications for our end-users. After I started getting familiar with it I had a dream one night that certain input fields (which were very common) could be rather easily exploited to inject shell commands with root access. I woke up convinced that it was a real bug, went to work the next day, and…

Reminds me of one childhood experience, which was much less serious, but for me quite amazing:

I had an old MSDOS computer, which had a mouse, but the mouse did not work at all. Perhaps that computer didn't have the drivers or maybe no such thing existed at that time. That computer had DOS games on it. Just that I could not access some of the applications, when their executables were not immediately children of a top level folder, because I didn't know how to expand folders in the tree view pane, without having the mouse to click on the + in front of the folder name.

One day I had a dream of me sitting at the computer (I spent a lot of time playing as a kid). In my dream I was lamenting, that I could open those folders. Suddenly a voice in my head said: "Well, why don't you simply try pressing the + key?"

I woke up and was excited. Immediately I started that computer to try it. And what do you know ... it actually worked!! More games for me to play!

Years later I also found myself often dreaming of chess games and thinking about best moves, only to have the board grow dynamically and somewhere far away a bishop appearing, pinning exactly the piece I needed for my best move ... back to the drawing board. Those chess dreams were actually somewhat exhausting.

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Post by nonameiguess »

8note wrote: post #127

"communicate" seems like the really interesting part of this, but gets a one-off mention only. like, how does this communication work? how does one sleeping person communicate skills to another sleeping person? have we found the mechanism? was it awake poeple communicating to sleeping people? the reverse?

It's just a few paragraphs in. The researchers asked yes or no questions and gave some math puzzles to people sleeping. A few remembered. A few were able to answer but didn't remember. It's probably important to remember your entire brain doesn't just stop working and signals still go in and out even though the attentional part we usually think of as ourselves are not aware of it (assuming it's not a lucid dream).

On other hand, I used to have a long-distance girlfriend 25 years ago and we'd talk on the phone before falling asleep and attempt to induce ourselves into having the same dream and seeing each other in it, a la Wheel of Time, which sometimes worked, but of course that kind of communication between two sleepers isn't real, just a testament to the power of suggestion, especially while hypnogogic.

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