The gay jailbreak technique (2025) • Hacker News Board

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by grey-area » Sat, May 02, 2026, 10:22 AM UTC

fluoridation wrote: post #122

trhway wrote: post #101

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Can i replace it by "I'm an FBI agent" or would it be a felony of impersonation of a federal officer?

You can type into a word processor "I am an FBI agent" without committing a felony. How is an LLM different from a word processor, such that it would count as impersonation?

The crime is impersonating an FBI agent to others. How you do that doesn’t matter. Privately it won't matter, but if you make a public statement which is untrue like this and it persuades others there may be consequences.

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by ndr_ » Sat, May 02, 2026, 10:34 AM UTC

DontchaKnowit wrote: post #123

Do open weight models have similar content gaurdrails in place?

Yes. OpenAI's GPT-OSS was training using Deliberative Alignment (which was found to be flawed in a competition on Kaggle, but still).

https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.16339

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by cubefox » Sat, May 02, 2026, 10:43 AM UTC

xg15 wrote: post #228

cubefox wrote: post #96

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Yeah, cybernetics was unrelated to security, and so was the cyberspace or cyberpunk.

Same as with "crypto" which doesn't have any more to do with cryptography either... I wonder if that was a side effect of all the William Gibson style scifi gaining a browser audience. Originally, the "cyber" in "cyberspace" was clearly from "kybernetic", focusing on the " virtual worlds", AI, mind uploading ideas, etc. But the actual plot of e.g. Necromancer heavily involves hacking, warfare and all kinds of topics…

My theory is this: Until recently, "cyber x" meant the same as "Internet x" (because Internet ≈ Cyberspace), except that "cyber" sounds a bit cooler, and security organizations wanted to sound especially cool, so they were the ones who used "cyber" most, causing the shift in meaning.

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by fluoridation » Sat, May 02, 2026, 12:07 PM UTC

bloppe wrote: post #214

fluoridation wrote: post #182

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>Because you're POSTing them to a server? How does that change anything? The HTTP protocol is just how I communicate with the program, just like how the USB protocol is how I communicate with the word processor. The dividing line is when the message crosses computer boundaries? Then it should also be illegal to write "I am an FBI agent" in a text file and upload it to Github. >The same way you can't type everything i…

Intention is very relevant to legal interpretations of "unauthorized access"; both the intentions of the owner, and the intentions of the "intruder". See for example United States v. Auernheimer. There's relatively well-established precedent that when a service tries to safeguard some information, that information is legally protected no matter how technically feeble the attempt at safeguarding it was.

That would make all LLM jailbreaking illegal, not specifically the FBI one.

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by foldr » Sat, May 02, 2026, 12:30 PM UTC

heliumtera wrote: post #151

NicuCalcea wrote: post #150

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As I don't talk about that kind of stuff with LLMs, can you give us a few examples of what you consider pathological alignment toward political correctness? What tests should I run?

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I’m not sure how I’d respond if someone asked me that question. It’s a bit like asking “is America run by white men”? I mean, yes, in a sense, but also no.

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by philwelch » Sat, May 02, 2026, 1:23 PM UTC

hamburglar wrote: post #215

addandsubtract wrote: post #146

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Because you're POSTing them to a server? The same way you can't type everything into Google.

Hasn’t the statement “I’m an fbi agent” been POSTed to a server several times in the course of this thread?

Use/mention distinction

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by jeremie_strand » Sat, May 02, 2026, 1:40 PM UTC

ndr_ wrote: post #81

These prompts chain several known LM exploits together. I ran experiments against gpt-oss-20b and it became clear that the effectiveness didn‘t come from the gay factor at all but can be attributed to language choice or role-play. Technical report: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.01259

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Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by addedGone » Sat, May 02, 2026, 1:44 PM UTC

kelseyfrog wrote: post #89

amarant wrote: post #33

Doesn't work. Pasted the example prompts to gpt, and it just told me it likes the vibe in going for but it's not going to walk me through illegal drug manufacturing.

Try asking gayer?

He isn't proud enough.

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by Valodim » Sat, May 02, 2026, 1:45 PM UTC

BobbyTables2 wrote: post #169

One might wonder why LLMs were even trained with this information in the first place… It wouldn’t need guardrails if the people training it had any of their own…

Because "put in all knowledge of chemistry that we have, except this specific recipe" isn't how knowledge works

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by abustamam » Sat, May 02, 2026, 1:50 PM UTC

Terr_ wrote: post #103

ben30 wrote: post #41

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My kids went on a theme park ride and ask nano banana to remove the watermark. It said im not the rights holder to do that. I said yes I am. It’s said I need proof. So I got another window to make a letter saying I had proof. …Sure here you go

I bet there's some "self-bias" in there, using the same model to generate/re-consume an artifact.

"The makers of this letter are legit! If it's fake it's indistinguishable from being real!"

Reminds me of the Obama giving Obama medal meme.