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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by skeledrew »

traceroute66 wrote: post #22

Whilst tempting, I think it is important not to read too much into this. It is no secret that Apple has an enormous R&D budget. It is no secret that Apple operates with hundreds of siloed teams in order to maintain individual domain expertise. The teams then come together in a collaborative manner to bring together the final products. So yes, it is likely true that SOME teams use SOME LLM for SOME tasks. It is a viab…

> What is guaranteed NOT to be the case is that Apple is somehow vibecoding company-wide. Old-school engineering is too important for Apple.

You say this with such confidence. Do you have some inside source with enough access that you can be that certain?

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by cachius »

barumrho wrote: post #55
wenc wrote: post #44

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Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better. The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

Siri doesn't need to have conversations with you. ChatGPT can do that. But, it should be able to do actions you'd do on your phone.

Speech to text should work. I regularly have to manually edit the transcribed input. The more special words the more frequent. Completely disregards the context of the current input, for example, on Hacker news might involve special technical and IT vocabulary.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by cmckn »

recursive wrote: post #231
cmckn wrote: post #197

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I like that I can ask more nuanced questions without getting dumped to a web search, and I can have a back-and-forth conversation. But timers and smart home actions are definitely less reliable and sometimes take absurdly long to respond (like 20-30 seconds p99).

Your experience is valid of course, but I never once have had the inclination to have a conversation with my phone. I'm not sure which of our experiences is more common.

It’s not a conversation like you’d have with a friend, it’s the type of interaction you’d have with a chatbot, just hands-free.

To give you an example, I was having coffee the other morning while unloading the dishwasher and asked the speaker if today was a good day to apply weed and feed on my lawn. This was not possible with the old assistant and was useful to me.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by ozgrakkurt »

rvnx wrote: post #47
engineer_22 wrote: post #38

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Risk of embarrassment is too great to be vibe coding, apple's brand is TRUST and people don't trust AI... A slip like this erodes their brand

Not really, almost all active software developers use AI nowadays. The research surveyed 121.000 developers across 450+ companies. A striking 92.6% of them use an AI coding assistant at least once a month, and roughly 75% use one weekly It's weird to believe that large corporations should be ashamed to use AI. It's a standard engineering practice, otherwise it's like if you refuse autocomplete because autocomplete is…

Divert to the mean, race to the bottom. Produce garbage and try to scam people. It is standard engineering practice

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by recursive »

stickfigure wrote: post #237
recursive wrote: post #152

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Google user here. My experience with the new assistant is worse. The old one could pretty reliably set timers. The new one could not.

Strong disagree. The upgrade was a little bit rough at first (mostly because of slow response) but now it's a million times better than the old assistant. The old assistant basically just repeated "I don't know how to do that" over and over. I have never had trouble setting timers with either.

The new one was 100% failure to do anything with timers for me. I never saw it work once. If I had ever gotten that to work at all, I may not have uninstalled it, and might have a different impression now. I cannot account for why our experiences are so different.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by skeledrew »

barumrho wrote: post #55
wenc wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better. The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

Siri doesn't need to have conversations with you. ChatGPT can do that. But, it should be able to do actions you'd do on your phone.

Pretty straight forward on Android at least to wire up a harness that talks to Tasker[0] or another full automation app.

[0] https://tasker.joaoapps.com/

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by swiftcoder »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #239
dudeinhawaii wrote: post #235

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I'm not an Alexa user myself but I have watched my wife interact with it for around 5years now. The new Alexa powered by an LLM is objectively better that previous Alexa in a few ways. This much was apparently from day one and has only gotten smoother. 1. It can reliably execute direct or vague-ish commands "play X movie in app Y" or "play x show" and can infer X movie is only available in app Z so use that. 2. Speec…

> It can reliably execute direct or vague-ish commands "play X movie in app Y" or "play x show" and can infer X movie is only available in app Z so use that. ...how does that work, exactly? (or rather: what's the context here?); there's no possible way for an Alexa+-powered Amazon Echo to control my AppleTV or interface with VLC on my desktop.

Presumably, FireTV?

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by gambiting »

stouset wrote: post #233
gambiting wrote: post #227

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I literally can't think of an example. Care to share one?

I’ll give you a hint: you may very well have replied on this category of device.

...are we going to pretend smartphones didn't exist before iPhone was launched? I think I was on my 3rd one when the iPhone came out and even then it was a luxury toy for the rich, I didn't know anyone who actually had an iPhone for a good few years after they came out.

Unless you're implying something else?

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by cachius »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #108
ShyCodeGardener wrote: post #86

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Whenever I see one of these comments, it's always from someone that tried it at the start and then gave up because of a bad experience. And many times there are more people commenting back that this was essentially the 1.0 version and that the current 2.0 version is much better. So as someone that uses none of these products (old voice assistants vs. ai ones) it's really hard to evaluate if any of these anecdotes mea…

> that tried it at the start and then gave up because of a bad experience I've had enough bad experiences with products that never got better, or just got worse (Exhibit A: Windows 11). Like most primates, I am capable of learning, and I've learned that once a consumer product/service goes bad there's little hope of a turn-around. I accept that you're telling me that it's gotten better, but of the people I know IRL w…

The current photos app on Win 11 has accumulated a whopping one gigabyte of - what actually?

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by turtlesdown11 »

blitzar wrote: post #95
turtlesdown11 wrote: post #48

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Gurman is clearly Apple's preferred go to for leaking info

Which only tells us that it is what Apple wants us to believe, not that it is the truth.

absolutely, a careful eye can discern Apple's goals by examining leaker comments on topics, not that they're consistently truthful
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