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Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Post by TMWNN »

SebastianKra wrote: post #221
throw0101c wrote: post #13

Time Capsule has been unsupported since 2018 (last shipped 2013): * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirPort_Time_Capsule I think there's some population of folks that have been doing NAS TM backups over AFP, and they'll now have to switch to SMB.

Have they, by chance, also fixed the issue where MacOs' SMB implementation is unusably slow when copying many small files? A backup of my 2TB MacBook literally takes weeks.

What I have done to maintain the integrity of my Time Machine backups (to UnRAID, via SMB):

For the "sparsebundles break" issue:

* Back up to multiple targets. I use both mbentley's Time Machine Docker image (only one backup per source machine) and UnRAID's built-in Time Machine functionality (multiple backups of same machine allowed).

* Use spaceinvader1's macinabox Docker image to have a local way to `fsck_apfs` the above sparsebundles.

* When one irreparably breaks, delete it and replace it with a copy of a working one from another of the above targets.

For the "backups are incredibly slow" issue:

* One of the above targets is to an SSD.

* Use TheTimeMachineMechanic's "Speed" option after a backup to determine the slow spots. Look at patterns in "Current:" lines. Pumping the output to an LLM is very helpful here.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Post by nozzlegear »

coldtea wrote: post #239
nozzlegear wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then there's no actual walled garden here, just a vague "Mac users are too dumb to realize there are more options" line in the sand. > I mean Average Joes off the street, who can't find Ukraine on the map How many Ukrainians can find Iowa or Missouri on the map? This metric means nothing.

> How many Ukrainians can find Iowa or Missouri on the map? Their country doesn't make decisions about American on their behalf (or even at all), so they don't have a moral obligation as citizens to. And Iowa and Missouri are mere states, and not even very interesting ones at that.

My point is that the US is a huge country and American education prioritizes learning where all 50 states are, since that's going to be a thousand times more relevant to any American in the span of their lifetime. So it's not surprising that the average American may not know where the fuck Estonia is, but they can tell you where Rhode Island is – and the reverse is true for the average European.

Being able to point something out on a map is a metric that means nothing. That is my point.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Post by nozzlegear »

joe_mamba wrote: post #235
nozzlegear wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then there's no actual walled garden here, just a vague "Mac users are too dumb to realize there are more options" line in the sand. > I mean Average Joes off the street, who can't find Ukraine on the map How many Ukrainians can find Iowa or Missouri on the map? This metric means nothing.

>Then there's no actual walled garden here With this bad faith line of reasoning that ignores user defaults, ecosystem ties and switching friction, Windows was also never a monopoly because companies and users could just switch to Mac or Linux whenever they wanted. >How many Ukrainians can find Iowa or Missouri on the map? Since when is Missouri a country?

> Since when is Missouri a country?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47949920

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Post by nozzlegear »

joe_mamba wrote: post #235
nozzlegear wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then there's no actual walled garden here, just a vague "Mac users are too dumb to realize there are more options" line in the sand. > I mean Average Joes off the street, who can't find Ukraine on the map How many Ukrainians can find Iowa or Missouri on the map? This metric means nothing.

>Then there's no actual walled garden here With this bad faith line of reasoning that ignores user defaults, ecosystem ties and switching friction, Windows was also never a monopoly because companies and users could just switch to Mac or Linux whenever they wanted. >How many Ukrainians can find Iowa or Missouri on the map? Since when is Missouri a country?

> With this bad faith line of reasoning that ignores user defaults, ecosystem ties and switching friction, Windows was also never a monopoly because companies and users could just switch to Mac or Linux whenever they wanted.

This bad faith line of reasoning ignores how viable Mac or Linux actually were as consumer devices at the time Microsoft had a monopoly.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Post by tedd4u »

adastra22 wrote: post #205
runlevel1 wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still use AFP on my NAS for a few reasons: 1. When I benchmarked it, AFP was significantly faster than SMB. Both with SMB2 and SMB3. Even when transport encryption was turned off. 2. On SMB2+, symlinks created by the client are not real symlinks. They're "Minshall+French" links which only look like symlinks to other SMB2+ clients. To the server and NFS mounts they look like flat files with the target path encoded i…

Yeah I recently migrated my NAS and took the opportunity to switch from AFP to SMB for my Time Machine backups. There were so many problems like the ones you describe that I gave up and went back to AFP. Looks like I'm going to be forced to spend a weekend with Claude figuring this out.

If you're using Synology, a couple years ago they finally published a help article that lists (IIRC) 3-5 settings important to switching from AFP to SMB. I had tried before that but to no avail.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Post by esseph »

joe_mamba wrote: post #225
esseph wrote: post #198

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Sounds like an Nvidia driver module issue more than anything else. If I had to guess, simply removing the Nvidia module should fix that and still get you video through one of the various backup paths (opennuveau etc)

You can run no-mode-set to get video output at boot/installation phase but then you're stuck with 800x600. That's with the FOSS nouveau driver in the kernel. There's no fixes that I could find. My LLM research says nouveau dropped support for that Nvidia architecture on newer kernels. Bummer.

> Bummer

You can still use an older 6.x kernel, but yeah... It's had almost a 20yr run! 2007 release.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Post by adastra22 »

tedd4u wrote: post #245
adastra22 wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I recently migrated my NAS and took the opportunity to switch from AFP to SMB for my Time Machine backups. There were so many problems like the ones you describe that I gave up and went back to AFP. Looks like I'm going to be forced to spend a weekend with Claude figuring this out.

If you're using Synology, a couple years ago they finally published a help article that lists (IIRC) 3-5 settings important to switching from AFP to SMB. I had tried before that but to no avail.

Thanks. I have my own hand-rolled solution on my Ubuntu-based homelab server. Using netatalk, I think?

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Post by lproven »

giantrobot wrote: post #195
wtallis wrote: post #28

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Where "new" in this case could be a NAS running Samba from 2011? Samba added official support for Time Machine much later, but I think it was possible on earlier versions with some extra steps.

I only meant new as in someone currently owns a Time Capsule and has to replace it with something "new" that supports newer SMB versions.

Don't worry, you're good.

https://github.com/jamesyc/TimeCapsuleSMB

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