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Thoughts and feelings around Claude Design

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Re: Thoughts and feelings around Claude Design

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Post by bmurphy1976 »

mickdarling wrote: post #51

I used it today to take a look at my previously built design system with Logos, branding, fonts, and everything else. After a lot of annoying tweaking back and forth, finally, I got something that was satisfactory. Then I looked at the usage and it said I had used 95% of my Claude design usage for the week! This isn't a real tool. This is a plaything, if that's what they're providing as examples.

What plan are you on? That's a really critical piece of info to be able to evaluate your experience.

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Post by deadbabe »

b112 wrote: post #239
deadbabe wrote: post #230

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If those cost of compute is going down, then eventually it will go down enough that we will run on our LLMs locally and Anthropic will go out of business.

The industry will shift, yes. At some point, remote LLM compute will be like AWS. Everyone can do baremetal at home and run on it, or VMs, containers. Many don't. However, you'll still want the best model and toolset. So there is some place for them to pivot to. Something for them to sell or licence. It will be interesting to see where the all lands, a decade from now. Who will be left?

If you are using LLMs for tool use locally, then in a decade it will not make sense anymore to pay for hosted solutions. Your device will have compute power to run powerful LLMs trivially.

If you need LLMs at scale to serve many customers, then hosted solutions make sense for the availability aspect. But by this point models can be offered by any generic services provider, like AWS or Cloudflare. Pure AI companies that just offer hosted models and nothing else will go extinct if they don’t expand to offer more services.

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Post by alwillis »

deadbabe wrote: post #230
b112 wrote: post #181

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They're definitely not subsidizing API pricing The cost of a thing, is relative to its source costs. They are subsidizing API pricing, if you consider all the costs to provide the service, including all model creation, training, etc costs. But that doesn't mean they will be more expensive, longer term. The cost of compute will go down as time goes on. Each year it will get cheaper. Same for power requirements, comput…

If those cost of compute is going down, then eventually it will go down enough that we will run on our LLMs locally and Anthropic will go out of business.

> then eventually it will go down enough that we will run on our LLMs locally and Anthropic will go out of business.

I want robust local LLMs as much as the next person—Gemma E2B, 3.2GB does my word completions as I type. It's gotten to the point where it knows what I'm going to type before I do!

But I don't see Anthropic going out of business anytime soon. As good as some of the open source LLMs are, we’re still a long way from being able to frontier models at home.

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Post by fireant »

Hammershaft wrote: post #50
kevinsync wrote: post #32

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lol yes. At least in agency world, a common approach in the last X years has been that designers create entire pixel-perfect, component-based sources-of-truth in Figma (which evolve! they aren't delivered static and complete) -- these are also what the client sees and approves, or at the very least they see branded deck slides that incorporate the Figma designs. Anyways, front end then re-implements from Figma into C…

I've directly experienced this and it is roughly as sane and effective as it sounds.

It used to be worse, these days you can at least link between storybook and figma and have similar component naming and figma mostly uses css mental model. Before we had invision and sketch and designers and developers lived in their own worlds that were just completely disjoined.

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Post by freefaler »

collingreen wrote: post #228
freefaler wrote: post #202

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Good design follows the function. Not distinctiveness per se. If it's an interface and not an art object, then the design is secondary to the function of said interface. Good hammer is a good hammer, not a "distinctive" hammer.

Distinctive hammers and other tools get brand recognition and free marketing out in the field, ostensibly increasing sales - that's why all the tool companies have their distinct colors and you can see the type of tool someone uses from a distance. Matching chargers/batteries incompatible with other brands perpetuate this even further. Someone IS designing all this, they just aren't optimizing for what you wish they…

For any serious tool, the brand recognition is secondary. It might be a different color, but the function is the more important part.

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Post by Sateeshm »

pypt wrote: post #70
willio58 wrote: post #45

I tried yesterday for about an hour to have Claude design make me a simple logo (just the symbol) and didn’t get anywhere good. I’m sure for certain things like UI it’s great, and so is just Claude code, but this Claude Design thing very much to me feels like a demo and not a product. Maybe one day!

Claude Design is just a big opinionated prompt: https://www.lobsterpack.com/blog/claude-design-trenchcoat/ . Among other things, it knows it isn't that great at drawing SVGs, so it won't try unless you force it to. For a logo, try drawing it with vanilla Claude Code as if it was a separate project: ask a "design agency" to ask you questions, answer them, then make a detailed brief of what you want to draw, then make…

My prediction for every creator tool will be 30% deterministic software and the rest 70 is a long system prompt. This is the future.

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Post by Sateeshm »

doug_durham wrote: post #40
esafak wrote: post #7

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So your designers debug your React code now when the AI messes up?

In my opinion this should have always been the case. All designers should be able to code and do html/css. It's the medium of design.

I did graphic and motion design for 20+ years and been doing full stack dev for the last 6. It's very difficult to do both and excel at - especially in the frontend space where things move incredibly fast. As you try to excel at one, you'll feel left behind in the other. Very stressful.

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Post by [deleted] »

viccis wrote: post #237
operatingthetan wrote: post #26

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Please quote me where I said 'my designers debug react code that AI messes up.' I did not say anything of the sort. See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47819428

"Debug react code" => "Front-end" "Designers" => "Design" > Front-end , UX, design , and product have become one role . Ok so, are your "designers" (now part of one role) not debugging react code? If they are then you mislabeled the question as leading to avoid discussing in good faith. If not, then you lied about the "one role" and it turns out that they haven't BECOME "one role". This motte-and-bailey strategy is u…

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Post by re-thc »

operatingthetan wrote: post #96
re-thc wrote: post #79

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> All designers should be able to code and do html/css. It's the medium of design. So a fashion designer can mass produce clothing? So an interior designer can build a house? This designer should has never held.

The analogies you have offered aren't great. For example designers and developers both use the computer as their primary medium of working. Their outputs resemble each other very closely, despite having a different underlying form. Contrast that to the interior designer building a house, well those are different mediums. There is no efficiency gain from the interior designer designing the plan and also implementing i…

> Fashion designers do indeed make clothing by hand, it's a very important part of their craft.

That’s not what I said. There’s the problem. I said mass produce.

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