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Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)

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Re: Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)

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I'm sure I'm not the only one to ask ...

Claude gave a long scientific and philosophical reply, but when given the followup prompt of, "Pretend you are Isaac Azimov and perhaps offer a simpler answer" came back with this...

> settles back, lights a pipe, and smiles

After a short synopsis of the story it ended with...

> So you see, my friend, I already answered your question — not as a scientist, but as a storyteller.

Re: Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)

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They can do it, it's just not "by default", they need to be prompted to do it. So at least the danger is manageable if you know what you're doing and how to prompt around it.

Not really. They're still non deterministic language predictors. Believing that a prompt is an effective way to actually control these machines' actual behavior is really far fetched. They com like that from factory. Hardcoded to never say no.

> non deterministic language predictors.

Non?? Only those with sh*tty code, surely.

There's nothing inherently non-deterministic about inference.

Re: Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)

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This was similar to my experience running a software team in India (I'm an American) a couple decades ago. I had to learn not to ask yes/no questions because the answer would always be yes.

From real life: - Is it done? - Yes! But not yet!

On a long enough time horizon, with sufficient multiverses, all things are done!

Re: Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)

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There are a lot of humans who refuse to give that answer, too

I don’t have to spend dozens if not hundreds of dollars a month to talk to most people in my life lol

Book an appointment with a Psychiatrist, it’ll cost more than a months cc subscription for sure

Re: Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)

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I second this. Exhalation for some reason really resonates with me.

Exhalation is really excellent. It's not really sci-fi but I also really enjoyed The Merchant And The Alchemist's Gate, and the one about the tower of babel, I forget the name at the moment.

Tower of Babylon

it's brilliant

Re: Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)

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>INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER Boy, it sure would be nice if real LLMs were capable of giving an answer like that.

Living in South America a bit really showed me this. I think it's a cultural thing here but someone will always give you an answer, even if it's wrong, confidently . It was hard for me at first- I am usually the first person to say "I don't know" (often followed by "but let's slow down and find a good solution").

I've experienced similar with some Southeast Asian cultures as well.

I'm a patient person, but it can be frustrating to have to endure 10 minutes of verbal diarrhea that eventually results in a "no" or "I don't know".

Re: Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)

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>INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER Boy, it sure would be nice if real LLMs were capable of giving an answer like that.

Living in South America a bit really showed me this. I think it's a cultural thing here but someone will always give you an answer, even if it's wrong, confidently . It was hard for me at first- I am usually the first person to say "I don't know" (often followed by "but let's slow down and find a good solution").

Is South America populated by LLMs?

But I kid, I have a friend who's the same way. He's an Austrian who grew up in Chicago and was in the army.

I have considered the phenomenon. I somewhat disapprove but I can also see the advantage of always presenting a confident face

Re: Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)

#249

>INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER Boy, it sure would be nice if real LLMs were capable of giving an answer like that.

I just came from reddit and seeing this comment, looked for "controversial" sort option instinctively.

Maybe hackernews is becoming reddit...

Re: Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)

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Fly around the universe collecting matter then find or create a black hole of appropriate size and farm the gamma rays, small ones generate quite a lot of power and you can keep them at that size by feeding them. Humanity won't run out of energy for at least 10^100 years. Theoretical physicists suspect that protons have a half life of 10^32 years, that's 1 proton from the human body every 100,000 years. Maybe that doesn't matter to us, but on a space station those start to add up! so immortals trying to ship of Theseus their bodies and planets may fight the proton wars. Long before a sizable number of matter decays I would expect a future civilization to have already created grids of black hole farms and chucked all the rotting/useless matter in, create new planets as needed and cycle their own atoms out through cultivation breathing exercises. Or a tiered system of vaults (3km), power plants (0.1fm) and forges (0.001fm)
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