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Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Re: Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Post by dolmen »

andrewSC wrote: post #199
ori_b wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once I discovered window managers and graphics, I stopped using half-baked features to emulate them in the terminal. I use tmux to reattach to programs after the network connection dies, and not really anything else. I would welcome a version of it that stripped out everything but that, and just replayed the last few pages of scrollback on reattach.

Unless I'm misreading this, I would also offer `mosh` as a recommendation. Has been nothing but excellent for my use cases.

zmosh is zmx+mosh

https://github.com/mmonad/zmosh

Re: Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Post by sabside »

alecsm wrote: post #17

I had my tmux customized to the point I forgot how to use it on a clean install which is a problem when I'm sshing into a server. I wish it had better defaults but now I run it as is. After a while you get used to it. The only thing I always have to change is the mouse scroll and my brain cannot retain the exact command.

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Re: Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Post by yason »

Why make C-a your prefix key? Just because it's the default in 'screen'? I use C-a a lot to go to BOL, just like C-e to go to EOL. I also use C-b a lot with C-f.

The obvious choice is C-z.

You rarely suspend processes and when you do, C-zC-z is pretty quick. For other combos, it pays to have control and z close to each other so that when your little finger and ring finger operate C-z then your other fingers can freely type whatever follows the prefix without having to unwind your fingers back from the keyboard first.

Re: Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Post by em-bee »

hnlmorg wrote: post #225
em-bee wrote: post #197

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interesting, i am trying to install it to give it a try. the features in ttyphoon look very promising. unfortunately the build now fails with "frontend.go:39:12: pattern all:frontend/dist: no matching files found" i am also a bit taken aback by the many dependencies. with heightened risk of supplychain attacks and dependency failures that feels a bit scary.

> unfortunately the build now fails with "frontend.go:39:12: pattern all:frontend/dist: no matching files found" How are you trying to build it? Are you calling make? Also what OS are you on? make build > i am also a bit taken aback by the many dependencies. with heightened risk of supplychain attacks and dependency failures that feels a bit scary. Yeah, I agree with you there. Most of my projects are very conservati…

i have fedora. and yes, i am running make build.

why did you choose wails btw? did you look at fyne? it's go-native and it seems to have a lot less dependencies.

can the AI integration be turned off? i am not going to use it myself.

is there a chatroom where we can talk through debugging my build problem? github issues? you didn't turn in the discussion forum for ttyphoon like you did for murex. or is there another place where you hang out? hn is not exactly the ideal place to talk through dev issues.

Re: Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Post by [deleted] »

npodbielski wrote: post #226
Zetaphor wrote: post #207

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You don't have a window manager hosting the terminal window on your host OS? That's the argument being made here, you're already in some kind of tiling or windowed environment, why replicate all of that on the remote?

Because with tmux you can reattach to session from another pc or from a phone and still have the same windows and panes?

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Re: Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Post by theshrike79 »

ggm wrote: post #224

Make tmux cut/paste work on mac terminal.app so I don't have to install iterm2 bloatware.

I select with mouse and paste to wherever, works every time?

How can it not work? I think the only even loosely relevant setting on my .tmux.conf is: set -g mouse on

Re: Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Post by theshrike79 »

imankulov wrote: post #49

I left tmux for zellij after several unsuccessful attempts to get Shift+Enter working. Was quite impressed initially and invested weeks in building new muscle memory, but somehow Zellij crashed with panic more than once, leaving all my processes orphaned. Decided to go back to tmux, and found a simple fix for my Shift+Enter issue. In case anyone is looking for it, the fix is "bind-key -T root S-Enter send-keys C-j" b…

I ended up with this: bind -n S-Enter send-keys Escape '[13;2u'

pi.dev keeps complaining that "set -s extended-keys on" is missing, but it still works :D

Re: Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Post by veber-alex »

ori_b wrote: post #142
ndr wrote: post #3

I gave up on it once I discovered https://zellij.dev/ Just even for how tab and panes are setup, and how it's good for scrolling and text selection with your mouse for copy pasting.

Once I discovered window managers and graphics, I stopped using half-baked features to emulate them in the terminal. I use tmux to reattach to programs after the network connection dies, and not really anything else. I would welcome a version of it that stripped out everything but that, and just replayed the last few pages of scrollback on reattach.

I use iTerm2 with tmux CC mode. Works great and gives native tabs and panes.

Re: Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Post by saagarjha »

pmarreck wrote: post #223
johnfn wrote: post #77

Guys, did you know about tmux control mode? It tells the host terminal to treat tmux tabs as actual tabs in the terminal. That means that things like scrollback, tab navigation, copy paste, keyboard shortcuts, etc are all handled natively, and you can visually see all your tmux tabs! It doesn't have great support across all terminals, but it does work great in iTerm 2. Try `tmux -CC` in iTerm. For a tmux novice like…

work in ghostty yet?

Not yet

Re: Make tmux pretty and usable (2024)

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Post by Biganon »

yason wrote: post #243

Why make C-a your prefix key? Just because it's the default in 'screen'? I use C-a a lot to go to BOL, just like C-e to go to EOL. I also use C-b a lot with C-f. The obvious choice is C-z. You rarely suspend processes and when you do, C-zC-z is pretty quick. For other combos, it pays to have control and z close to each other so that when your little finger and ring finger operate C-z then your other fingers can freel…

> it pays to have control and z close to each other

Well there you have it, control and z are not close to each other on my keyboard, yet control and a are.

What's your layout?

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