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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by UI_at_80x24 »

ericmcer wrote: post #216
hombre_fatal wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect many people here have tried it, but they expected it to one-shot any prompt, and when it didn't, it confirmed what they wanted to be true and they responded with "hah, see?" and then washed their hands of it. So it's not that they're too stupid. There are various motivations for this: clinging on to familiarity, resistance to what feels like yet another tool, anti-AI koolaid, earnestly underwhelmed but don'…

So what do I do differently then? Hypothetically, you have a simple slice out of bounds error because a function is getting an empty string so it does something like: `""[5]`. Opus will add a bunch of length & nil checks to "fix" this, but the actual issue is the string should never be empty. The nil checks are just papering over a deeper issue, like you probably need a schema level check for minimum string length. A…

I have encountered the exact same kind of frustration, and no amount of prompting seems to prevent it from "randomly" happening.

`the error is on line #145 fix it with XYZ and add a check that no string should ever be blank`

It's the randomness that is frustrating, and that the fix would be quicker to manually input that drives me crazy. I fear that all the "rules" I add to claude.md is wasting my available tokens it won't have enough room to process my request.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by xantronix »

jimmaswell wrote: post #138
xantronix wrote: post #75

As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…

Contingency plan? Just code without it like before. AI could disappear today and I would be very disappointed but it's not like I forgot how to code without it. If anything, I think it's made me a better programmer by taking friction away from the execution phase and giving me more mental space to think in the abstract at times, and that benefit has certainly carried over to my work where we still don't have copilot…

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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by mvkel »

bmurphy1976 wrote: post #229
mvkel wrote: post #8

Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed…

There's another piece of the puzzle. Dario has very clearly stated they are not taking the OpenAI approach of spending $trillion to scale right now and assume the money comes later. They are spending significantly less and working towards profitability sooner. That means they are going to be far more constrained infrastructurally than some of the competition. I think this is some of the constraints that we are seeing…

He did say that. And, in virtually the same breath, said they would have to spend $trillions if they hope to remain SOTA, which they have to be [0],[1].

They don't have compute because they didn't play the game and get the good rates a couple of years ago, and are now forced to work with third-rate providers. That's not a strategy.

I would take everything he says with a huge grain of salt.

[0] “We’re buying a lot. We’re buying a hell of a lot. We’re buying an amount that’s comparable to what the biggest players in the game are buying.”

“Profitability is this kind of weird thing in this field. I don’t think in this field profitability is actually a measure of spending down versus investing in the business.”

[1] “You don’t just serve the current models and never train another model, because then you don’t have any demand because you’ll fall behind.”

So he's not spending so they can be profitable, AND spending as much as the biggest players are spending, AND not really looking at profit as a measure of anything? K.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by prabal97 »

wongarsu wrote: post #189
embedding-shape wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and I have to consume it in the way that it's presented I'm just curious, why do you "have to"? Don't get me wrong, I'm making the same choice myself too, realizing a bunch of global drawbacks because of my local/personal preference, but I won't claim I have to, it's a choice I'm making because I'm lazy.

What are the reasonable options besides a Claude Code subscription (or an equivalent from Codex or Copilot)? I could pay API prices for the same models, but aside from paying much more for the same result that doesn't seem helpful I could pay a 4-5 figure sum for hardware to run a far inferior open model I could pay a six figure sum for hardware to run an open model that's only a couple months behind in capability (o…

I use my OAI subscription on my Claude Code. I get the benefit of the Claude Code interface with the intelligence of OAI models.

https://prabal.ca/posts/claude-code-chatgpt-subscription/

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by varispeed »

I found that telling Claude that it is trying to defraud you and making spend money often gets it back on track and return to pervious performance briefly until it agains starts doing nonsense.

I think Anthropics model has conflict of interest. They seem to have nerfed the models so that it takes more iterations to get the result (and spend more money) than it used to where e.g. Opus would get something right first time.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by fleischhauf »

CapmCrackaWaka wrote: post #22

If anthropic‘s reliability becomes a meme, they risk brand death like Microsoft. Go to hand it to them though, they’re really living that “AI writes all of our code and it should write your code too” life.

I'm quite impressed on how far they got while the claude code code looks like it does.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by prabal97 »

tomasphan wrote: post #25

98% uptime is not great. Our eng department is thinking about going half half with Codex but of course there’s a switching cost.

FYI I use my Codex models with Claude code and they work pretty great. It can even pick up on existing conversations w/ Opus and then resume w/ OAI models.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by leptons »

xmprt wrote: post #150
827a wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alternatively, the elephant in the room I'm surprised no one wants to talk about: the vibe coding is catching up with them.

I don't think anyone is talking about it because it's not a very productive conversation to have. I'm not particularly bullish on vibe coding either but if you could explain what exactly about vibe coding causes these specific issues then it could be more interesting to discuss. But as it stands, the more likely reason is capacity crunch caused by a chips shortage and demand heavily outpacing supply. You vibe coding…

Vibe coding does not usually produce performant code, it produces spaghetti with the goal of making the user asking for work to be done to go away as soon as possible with a (often barely) working solution.

I recently vibe-translated a simple project from Javascript to C, where Javascript was producing 30fps, and the first C version produced 1 frame every 20 seconds. After some time trying to get the AI to optimize it, I arrived at 1fps from the C project. Not a win, but the AI did produce working C code.

I have no doubt that if I had done this myself (which I will do soon), with the appropriate level of care, it would have been 30fps or more.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by xantronix »

cookiengineer wrote: post #200
xantronix wrote: post #75

As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…

The great part is that you can always build your own selfhosted tools. There is nothing that can't be done at home, it's just a calculation of how much you're willing to spend. Lately though the RAM crisis is continuing and making things like this more unfeasible. But you can still use a lot of smaller models for coding and testing tasks. Planning tasks I'd use a cloud hosted one, for now, because gemma4 isn't there…

I'm definitely all in on self-hosting, though I rent my compute and pay for bandwidth with Linode and storage with rsync.net.

The LLM bit though, personally, is just not for me.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by varispeed »

kristjansson wrote: post #65

No one is going to like this answer, but there’s a simple solution: pay for API tokens and adjust your use of CC so that the actions you have it take are worth the cost of the tokens. It’s great to buy dollars for a penny, but the guy selling em is going to want to charge a dollar eventually…

The problem with tokens is that they have wrong incentive. The quicker model arrives at the solution the less tokens you have to buy.

So I noticed the model is purposefully coming with dumb ideas or running around in circles and only when you tell it that they are trying to defraud you, they suddenly come back with a right solution.

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