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Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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lol not everyone wants/needs an iPhone And yes. People need to get on with the times. In the same way people "need" a power connection in their house. And water plumbing. And used to need a phone line to "participate in society"

So what's next? Do they also need to have an age-verified Facebook account? Plus an attested age-verified operating system on that phone? Are they allowed to use GrapheneOS or do they need to use only the vendor's stock ROM image? Is it OK if they turn off surveillance on the device or is that required too to "participate in society"?

I know you're joking but the future will be: No. Yes. No, stock only. No, surveillance required.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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I daily drive a Light Phone III, haven't had a smartphone in years and would rather never use one again. Our local concert venue requires an app for tickets, so I have just given up on the idea of going to major concerts or seeing our local hockey team play.

I was looking at the light phone 2 a while ago but don’t remember why I decided not to. Maybe they were out of stock. I’ll check it out again… I would love to divorce my smartphone and only use it at certain times. I’ve been using the Brick and Screen Time more often now.

The Light III is a great improvement over the II. If you are trying to use your phone less the II will encourage that just because the epaper is pretty janky and annoying. I gave my Light II to my son, which I hope gives him a generally negative first impression of phones.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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From my quick research online, it seems they've gone digital-only for season tickets because they don't want people just reselling them to turn a profit. They want actual season-long fans, so now if you transfer too many games they can track it and ban you. This is essentially anti-scalping. There's a legit justification. You can still buy paper tickets at the stadium for a single game. But not for season passes anym…

> At some point, you have to cut off previous technologies because virtually everyone's moved to something better. I don't agree that it's better. Why should I have to worry about my ticket running out of battery power or being such a high-value pickpocket target once I'm already in the venue? The latter is a huge issue at music festivals for example: - https://old.reddit.com/r/OutsideLands/search/?q=phone+stolen...…

In most cases, digital event tickets are a QR code which is just an alphanumerical code. You can easily print them, so you don't have to worry about your phone.

I've never seen digital tickets which aren't printable.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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post #211

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I understand what you mean, however it's still quite hilarious that there is an user on checks notes hacker news, who does not have a phone. This reminds me of the Japanese cybersecurity minister who did not use a computer. Bonus points if you work at Apple, or Google and work on iOS or Android. Would explain a lot why they are the way they are.

I know Chrome / Chrome-adjacent googlers who swear by Firefox.

What are their reasons? I can imagine a few and I use Firefox myself, but I'd be interested in anything non-obvious.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Stuff like this should always have an analog failsafe like a printable ticket. I can’t be the only one who has a phone actually die out and about. Especially as this device gets a little old, battery drops maybe 1% every 2 min of screen on use. Even worse in crowded cell service situations like baseball games.

Ticket counterfeiting is the core problem that they are trying to prevent. If there's a fallback method then that fallback method can be abused to forge tickets. EDIT: I know complaining about downvotes is a downvotable offense itself, but I'm genuinely curious as to what is objectionable about this comment.

Forgery isn't relevant.

He's a known individual, a season ticket holder. He's not some random dude showing up with a paper ticket.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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My wife and I had an appointment last week to apply for a line of credit. We talked it all through with the clerk and decided to go for it, so he started the whole process on his computer. His jaw dropped half-way through when he asked for my wife's and my phone number, and I had to tell him that I don't own a smart phone. Turns out you must have a smart phone because the system sends you some kind of code to verify…

I understand what you mean, however it's still quite hilarious that there is an user on checks notes hacker news, who does not have a phone. This reminds me of the Japanese cybersecurity minister who did not use a computer. Bonus points if you work at Apple, or Google and work on iOS or Android. Would explain a lot why they are the way they are.

Many security/privacy nerds don't own end consumer gadgets etc...

Some folks go vegan after seeing how the sausage gets made.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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post #200

My wife and I had an appointment last week to apply for a line of credit. We talked it all through with the clerk and decided to go for it, so he started the whole process on his computer. His jaw dropped half-way through when he asked for my wife's and my phone number, and I had to tell him that I don't own a smart phone. Turns out you must have a smart phone because the system sends you some kind of code to verify…

> in order to identify me

We should stop accepting this ridiculous excuse. Our phone numbers are not identifiers. How does me telling a bank "My phone number is 123-456-7890" give them any assurance whatsoever that I am the person whose name will be printed on a loan document?

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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My wife and I had an appointment last week to apply for a line of credit. We talked it all through with the clerk and decided to go for it, so he started the whole process on his computer. His jaw dropped half-way through when he asked for my wife's and my phone number, and I had to tell him that I don't own a smart phone. Turns out you must have a smart phone because the system sends you some kind of code to verify…

I understand what you mean, however it's still quite hilarious that there is an user on checks notes hacker news, who does not have a phone. This reminds me of the Japanese cybersecurity minister who did not use a computer. Bonus points if you work at Apple, or Google and work on iOS or Android. Would explain a lot why they are the way they are.

Imagine being on hacker news and having an iPhone instead of a Pinephone /jk.

I'm always annoyed when some real-world good or service is only available to people with a smartphone, especially when it wasn't always so. Blue Bikes (rentable bicycles) were in the past usable with a membership card, but it got phased out in favour of an app.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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My wife and I had an appointment last week to apply for a line of credit. We talked it all through with the clerk and decided to go for it, so he started the whole process on his computer. His jaw dropped half-way through when he asked for my wife's and my phone number, and I had to tell him that I don't own a smart phone. Turns out you must have a smart phone because the system sends you some kind of code to verify…

>Turns out you must have a smart phone Any phone that can receive SMS, not a smartphone. You could purchase a burner flip phone for this purpose.

I could also buy a smartphone. The point is that I shouldn't have to.
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