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AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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Post by colechristensen »

shevy-java wrote: post #233
tzs wrote: post #95

I wonder how well it would work to use AI as a front end to Band-in-a-Box? Band-in-a-Box is a commercial program that has been around since 1990. What it did then was let you specify a chord progression, style, tempo, and instruments and it would make a generate a MIDI track. I think it might have also been able to take a melody and come up with a chord progression for it in a style/genre of your choosing. The target…

Personally I would feel ripped off if I'd bought music that would be generated by AI but there was no notification that this was done. Any group that would do so I would permanently disregard for any further consumption or attention from me.

this is an overcorrection not understanding the extent to which music is the product of shared rules that are more an act of mechanical execution than creativity. the creativity is there it's just much smaller than many realize. machine generated music has existed for a long time

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Post by wao0uuno »

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #231

I was a big fan of listening to music, long time subscriber to Spotify, would listen to music when driving, when cooking, when coding (Same playlist for 20+ years - Matrix + fat of the land). The last 6 years has been no music. I unsubscribed from everything since I felt music was an intrusion in the moment. I had a quick listen to the "AI singer", and it's soulless, empty, and generic - Which is modern music anyway.

People have been saying the same thing since forever. There has always been and always will be good music. It's just difficult to find.

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Post by yoz-y »

Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playing might be AI generated.

Now I just go and look for new albums from bands I know I like. I wish there was a pre-2023 filter for the algorithmic feed.

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Post by hbs18 »

leptons wrote: post #186
arjie wrote: post #165

I suspect this is some trick somewhere with purchased views or something. Not that I'm against AI music. I love the various lo-fi / cyberpunk / etc. AI youtube channels. I also enjoy my own suno music. Overall, I'd say AI music dominates my listening these days. It just seems unusual that a lot of people like the same thing. Even the channels on Youtube that I listen to are so prolific (people generate a large amount…

Have you ever been to a live rock show and felt exhilarated during it, feeling connected to the crowd and the musicians and the music? AI won't replace that, and I feel bad for people who won't get to experience it because "AI is good enough".

Not the person you're replying to but each have their time and place. When I have a lo fi playlist on I don't expect to feel exhilarated, connected to the crowd and the musicians.

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Post by ssl-3 »

prodigycorp wrote: post #153
notatoad wrote: post #30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHQevuohJH8 my music tastes are pretty mainstream, and this just does absolutely nothing for me. it's exactly what i'd expect AI music to sound like - completely forgettable, with nothing interesting about it. i'd be willing to believe that this music was legitimately charting if it had at least some redeeming qualities, but i can't imagine how this could honestly get eleven spots on t…

Wow, this song is horribly mastered.

It's not great in that way. The mastering -- if there is any -- is definitely kind of shit.

But that's a relatively easy thing for a human with the right combination of toolchain, ears, and experience to fix. It tends to be a slow process that takes a good bit of time, but lots of actual-mixdowns start off way worse than this before they get polished up by a skilled mastering engineer.

(Maybe in a year or three we'll have the mastering process automated into an uncanny mush of soullessness, as well.)

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Post by ssl-3 »

Gigachad wrote: post #111
setnone wrote: post #40

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the comments are very suspicious and very scary

A lot of them read like twitter bots with generic “wow beautiful ” Wherever there is profit to be made on the internet, you have massive amounts of weird abuse and botting to game the system. Maybe not even literal bots, but paying a sweatshop in India to leave thousands of generic comments to boost your rankings on the algorithm.

People were responding with period-correct, insipid “wow beautiful ” replies for decades before we had bots to do it.

It was noise when it was only people; it's still just noise when it also includes bots.

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Post by echelon »

obirunda wrote: post #203
echelon wrote: post #124

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This is what we call in the business a "fever dream"

Or the uno reverse - that's what the anti-AI crowd is experiencing in their inability to adjust to the coming reality.

You're just going to have to make peace. I don't know how y'all can cope with being angry at progress all the time. It's not going to stop for you. It's also really awesome that we live to see this come to pass.

We're living in a good dream.

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Post by avian »

jorl17 wrote: post #159
banjomonster wrote: post #151

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What recommendations do you have for AI artists doing genuinely interesting work, or good places to find them?

Unfortunately these are people in my circles: friends and family. So I cannot bring you any recommendations.

I'm reminded of something I've read somewhere "Nothing is more boring than listening about someone else's dreams".

I think it tells a lot about AI-generated art. People prompting the AI find it fascinating because they look at it with in the context of their internal thoughts and moods that led them to it. But the generated artwork itself doesn't communicate that context at all. A complete stranger will find it derivative and boring.

I'm guessing that looking at AI art prompted by your friend and family may be a middle road somewhere. So maybe the fact that you have such a positive opinion on AI art is because it's the people you know closely that are doing it.

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Post by theshackleford »

spongebobstoes wrote: post #196
jjfoooo4 wrote: post #86

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> people might luck into something genuinely good and worth sharing from time to time. A) it would be impossible to find in a sea of AI generated slop B) even if it were to be recognized as good, it would be instantly copied by other AI’s such that it would be very shortly thereafter be also considered slop For any work to gain traction with an audience, there needs to be scarcity. Art and artists are valued because…

it's already impossible to find good music in a sea of slop. that's been the case for decades at this point as with all art, the hardest part is discovery artificial scarcity is indistinguishable from greed

> it's already impossible to find good music in a sea of slop. that's been the case for decades at this point

I’ve found some of my favourite music in the last decade, during a time in my life by which it’s generally considered that your tastes are set.

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