Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz • Hacker News Board

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by stevenwoo » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 2:56 PM UTC

nozzlegear wrote: post #231

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Germany got a new type of government. The 2/3 required in USA for significant change will be insurmountable short of a disaster on order of second Great Depression since plurality of American voters can’t see past next paycheck, no Democrat that can win Presidential primary has any kind of revolutionary vision, it’s all muted, even Bernie got squashed by centrist voters eventually and he was not even that far to the…

Hillary Clinton was to the left of Bernie Sanders in 2016, because free trade reduces global stratification and being against trade and immigration like Bernie was (and is) to protect American jobs is elitism.

I think you are only right on gender and race issues. That might have lost Sanders some voters in primaries. Unfortunately neoliberalism was adapted wholeheartedly by Bill Clinton and Blair and kinda inherited by Hillary, is not remotely left leaning belief.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by qwerpy » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 3:03 PM UTC

watwut wrote: post #217

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I said "win against Trump". That you identify so much with Trump that you twisted it into "against me" is telling. That you dont care about overall damage because "I am rich so others suffer" just confirms what I already think about Trump voters.

Did you forget what you wrote?

> win against Trump voters like you

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by soared » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 3:35 PM UTC

xphos wrote: post #230

soared wrote: post #10

This seems like one of the first very clear indications that separating your country from the US can be beneficial. The first stone unturned - will we see more countries aligning with other powers?

I like the progress but I think the article oversell the hope here. Its not about getting to 10s of crossings a day. The previous volume of ships was 130-140 per day. If the capacity of the strait is down +90% their is going to be long lasting problems. I've seen as many as 3 million of the ~20 million barrals might be getting through. The 17m/day deficit has to come from somewhere i.e more coal or increased oil pric…

Seems reasonable that the blockade also means big negative impact on X random country -> that country pressures or builds distaste for US. May be an effective way to further sway the distaste for the US across the world.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by nozzlegear » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 3:46 PM UTC

Our_Benefactors wrote: post #238

nozzlegear wrote: post #231

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Hillary Clinton was to the left of Bernie Sanders in 2016, because free trade reduces global stratification and being against trade and immigration like Bernie was (and is) to protect American jobs is elitism.

> Hillary Clinton was to the left of Bernie Sanders in 2016 No, this is so factually untrue as to be offensive. Hillary is a party stooge through and through, it’s why she was essentially installed as the 2016 dem candidate, in spite of voter preferences. They did Bernie dirty

> Hillary is a party stooge through and through, it’s why she was essentially installed as the 2016 dem candidate, in spite of voter preferences. They did Bernie dirty

No, this is so factually untrue as to be offensive. I caucused and volunteered for Bernie in 2016. He lost the primary vote fair and square, but he dragged himself and his supporters to the convention kicking and screaming as if there was some chance he could overcome a mathematical defeat. Superdelegates never even entered the equation. All he did was instill a conspiracy in his diehard supporters.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by nozzlegear » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 5:02 PM UTC

stevenwoo wrote: post #241

nozzlegear wrote: post #231

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Hillary Clinton was to the left of Bernie Sanders in 2016, because free trade reduces global stratification and being against trade and immigration like Bernie was (and is) to protect American jobs is elitism.

I think you are only right on gender and race issues. That might have lost Sanders some voters in primaries. Unfortunately neoliberalism was adapted wholeheartedly by Bill Clinton and Blair and kinda inherited by Hillary, is not remotely left leaning belief.

I'm mostly being tongue-in-cheek (I should've added /s but it's too late to edit it in now). As a former Bernie volunteer and caucuser turned neoliberal globalist shill, I just like to poke at DNC conspiracies by pointing out that Bernie was a flawed candidate and that, even today, he isn't very left-leaning at all on some issues like immigration, visas and trade.

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Post by Gud » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 5:28 PM UTC

robocat wrote: post #216

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The US is only nominally democratic. You get politicians bought and paid for. Perhaps there are counter examples, but not many. Only democracy in the western world where there is so much money involved in the elections, is the USA.

The influence of money is a weakness of any democracy. Maybe look at other democratic countries. Definitely seen it here in New Zealand.

It is absolutely not necessary to spend billions to become president of Germany, in fact it is probably illegal...

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Post by alephnerd » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 7:17 PM UTC

petre wrote: post #212

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France hasn't bought Israeli weapons systems and vice versa for years, so it's just a quick populist win with 0 practical implications either way. That said, French and Israeli vendors like Thales, IAI, Dassault, Rafael, Elbit, etc still collaborate closely becuase they are both OEMs, vendors, and JV partners in Indian defense deals that integrate both into Indian weapons systems - especially as both are integrated (…

> Most countries that historically had a Soviet/Russian kit are now mandating French+Israeli interoperability becuase of India's success at using it to replace older Soviet or Russian systems where possible. Elbit also has previous experience retrofitting Soviet MiG-21s to operate with NATO munitions.

Yep, because India demanded Israeli munitions (which are NATO compatible) be interoperable with the MiG-21 and other Russian/Soviet jets India had in the 1990s.

India was the 2nd largest MiG-21 operator in it's heyday and the only one that also operated NATO compatible munitions.

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Post by mrguyorama » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 8:43 PM UTC

MarsIronPI wrote: post #236

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Who needs personality when you got your own stormtroopers with guns?

You need to stop the people with guns from killing you and your stormtroopers. That's what the Second Amendment is for.

The people who bay loudest about that second amendment have long signaled that they will kill to keep Trump in power. They've been salivating for an excuse to shoot democrats for decades. They have been openly advocating for the murder of democrats for ages. Democrat politicians were literally murdered in the past few years and they don't give a fuck, because they support it.

Trump is already well beyond the confines of the Constitution. If the 2A crowd gave a fuck about rights other than larping soldiers, they would have already marched on him. He has openly declared that guns should be taken away from people and that having a gun on you at a protest should justify shooting you. The 2A crowd continues to support him fully.

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Post by mrguyorama » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 9:00 PM UTC

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Germany changed its constitution, banned its former ruling party, and actively explores and teaches their school kids about their crimes. The US on the other hand has a chunk of its electorate flying Confederate flags and voting for politicians who think US history textbooks should be more "pro-American".

I'm not saying the country is perfect right now. We need a third Reconstruction.

We need a first reconstruction. We voted in Confederate sycophants ASAP to undo the very first, and spent the next 100 years pretending that slavery wasn't still happening.

Yet again we have instead voted in people who for some reason think the literal aristocracy system of the antebellum south was anything worth protecting, despite the southern US being so dysfunctional it could barely support a war of it's own making.

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Post by cowboylowrez » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 10:04 PM UTC

LeFantome wrote: post #110

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I think a large part of why they do this and vote the way they do is because of comments like yours. Hacker news, Reddit, award shows, movies, universities, etc all have a constant drum beat of disdain and hate towards them. I think this motivates them into voting even if the vote is against their own interest.

One third of Americans voted Democrat. One third voted Republican. One third did not vote. I hold the last group most responsible.

Not me, trump should have at most received 1 to 2 percent in either primaries or the general election, even in 2016 we knew what sort of fellow he was, at least the folks who could read more than a paragraph in a sitting.

The primaries were the worst, at least the generals you get conservatives voting party lines, the primaries are where "conservatives" decided that trump was their guy. just go back and read up on republicans descriptions of trump before they had to get in line in the wake of the trump victories. I exclusively hold the trump voters in the primaries responsible. We're the sort of country of laws that traditionally says any loser can run for office, its our job as a society to keep at least a plausible set of standards for who we want in office. "Conservatives" who went trump either failed to do their due dilligence, or they are aligned with trumps value system which common decency prevents me from describing in any detail.