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Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by satvikpendem »

jhrmnn wrote: post #41
altmanaltman wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of amazing technology has been invented just for the purpose of killing people. It's nothing new. Humans are monkeys that like to kill other monkeys and no amount of civilization will change that.

I find it sad that while technological progress is seen almost as a given by virtually everyone, moral progress is often not even an aspiration

It doesn't seem like moral progress actually exists or even can exist given human nature. In every time period and era there are people killing each other, amongother crimes. It is fallacious to think that we have a monotonically increasing meter of moral progress, that we are somehow better than our ancestors. Reality shows that we are exactly the same, as the parent says.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by satvikpendem »

NonHyloMorph wrote: post #101
altmanaltman wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah they just use their tentacles to catch prey and bring it into their body cavity, where they feed on and defecate out of the same opening. Maybe they don't because they lack the intellect to do so, not because they have any sense of morality.

Well not sure where the disgust for jellyfish is coming from but there isn't really much of a moral argument here. What you are saying is akin to: look you just ate a burger, what's next–the holocaust? (The organisation of the functioning of bodily orifices of the organism isn't really at all relevant for that. One might also add, that in the case of the burger, there might actually be an argument for some structural…

Vegans actually do say that but I get your point, not sure what the parent is getting at either, if jellyfish were to have the intellect and dexterity I still wouldn't see why they'd build camps.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by thewhitetulip »

arnvald wrote: post #215

I’ll never understand why they ruined GitHub. They had everything they needed - the one place in the world where 99% of open source projects were hosted, where all the discussions happened. A product that people were so used to that it was a no brainer when it came to hosting private repos. And they had to ruin it and give space to GitLab and other competitors. What a waste…

Some Product Manager who wanted his promotion of the year went with: Oh how about we squeeze more revenue from our unpaid users

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Post by duskdozer »

esafak wrote: post #227
moron4hire wrote: post #192

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If it's for work, why do you need GitHub at all? To me, GitHub only makes sense as a social media site for code. If you are publishing to GitHub with no intent to be open in your code, development process, and contributor roster, then I don't see the point of being on GitHub at all. Because it's not like their issue tracker is particularly good. It's not like their documentation support is particularly good. It's not…

What do you use for code review and CI/CD then?

You can do it with forgejo, just have to self-host the runners

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Post by duskdozer »

kergonath wrote: post #130
latexr wrote: post #122

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> sorry about the tangent I understand why you felt the need to do it, but it’s still sad that you have to apologise for it. It’s not like if using technology for killing is a fringe hypothesis, it’s happening right now and on the news. It’s a discussion worth having. > This really is the quote of the century I loathe that quote. The people thinking about how to make others click ads are only concerned with themselve…

> A “best mind” should be capable of empathy and have a broad societal view of consequences for their actions Empathy and introspection are so 20th century. They are a hindrance when your aim is to make as much money and put it on fire as quickly as possible. Because somehow that’s how we decided to measure success.

Another user posted this article earlier https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/03/introspection-andr... which was interesting

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Post by 3yr-i-frew-up »

latexr wrote: post #122
yosamino wrote: post #4

Calling advertisements "product tips" as if everybody is too stupid to understand what that means. They created an amazing technology that oftentimes is indistinguishable from magic and then use it to deliver ads and - sorry about the tangent - kill people. This really is the quote of the century: > The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads What a waste.

> sorry about the tangent I understand why you felt the need to do it, but it’s still sad that you have to apologise for it. It’s not like if using technology for killing is a fringe hypothesis, it’s happening right now and on the news. It’s a discussion worth having. > This really is the quote of the century I loathe that quote. The people thinking about how to make others click ads are only concerned with themselve…

>A “best mind” should be capable of empathy and have a broad societal view of consequences for their actions.

9 years of philosophy later: You are not a best mind. Sorry. But you think morals metaphysically exist and no best minds do.

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Post by tartoran »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #243
arnvald wrote: post #215

I’ll never understand why they ruined GitHub. They had everything they needed - the one place in the world where 99% of open source projects were hosted, where all the discussions happened. A product that people were so used to that it was a no brainer when it came to hosting private repos. And they had to ruin it and give space to GitLab and other competitors. What a waste…

Some Product Manager who wanted his promotion of the year went with: Oh how about we squeeze more revenue from our unpaid users

And what's even more disappointing is that despite failure they probably do get promoted.

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Post by jacquesm »

hagbard_c wrote: post #231
arnvald wrote: post #215

I’ll never understand why they ruined GitHub. They had everything they needed - the one place in the world where 99% of open source projects were hosted, where all the discussions happened. A product that people were so used to that it was a no brainer when it came to hosting private repos. And they had to ruin it and give space to GitLab and other competitors. What a waste…

This type of behaviour seems to be endemic within Microsoft. They're like the scorpion in the Russian tale of the scorpion and the frog, seemingly a retelling of the Persian tale of the scorpion and the tortoise: A long time ago, a scorpion came to the edge of a great river. Not being a good swimmer, it asked a nearby frog if it might get a ride across. The frog eyed the scorpion warily. “I’ve heard of your kind. I s…

You have cause and effect confused. They buy the property because of the goodwill, they can't get it any other way, they know they will destroy it but goodwill doesn't necessarily show up on the balance sheet, whereas the result of burning that goodwill will show up on the balance sheet.

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Post by alsetmusic »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #218
arnvald wrote: post #215

I’ll never understand why they ruined GitHub. They had everything they needed - the one place in the world where 99% of open source projects were hosted, where all the discussions happened. A product that people were so used to that it was a no brainer when it came to hosting private repos. And they had to ruin it and give space to GitLab and other competitors. What a waste…

The worst part of Microsoft is whoever is running their marketing department, they just inject themselves into everything, like Windows. GitHub is different, they will 100% lose users and income if they don't learn to back the hell off of it though. Windows, well, everyone complains about Windows no matter what, so valid complaints are ignored. With Office, well, your employer is paying for it, so you have no say in…

> It's clearly the marketing dept at Microsoft swoops in and poisons all their software, who else would be doing this?

Capitalism (and it's demands of the market) at its finest.

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Post by cute_boi »

arnvald wrote: post #215

I’ll never understand why they ruined GitHub. They had everything they needed - the one place in the world where 99% of open source projects were hosted, where all the discussions happened. A product that people were so used to that it was a no brainer when it came to hosting private repos. And they had to ruin it and give space to GitLab and other competitors. What a waste…

Because Microslop always hires cheap labor that ends up becoming management, and then things start to break. And the cycle continues. This is what happened at Bank of America, Citi and others.
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