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US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by IncreasePosts »

Ylpertnodi wrote: post #118
shepherdjerred wrote: post #70

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I'd leave the US if the tech jobs didn't pay so much better here. I mostly like the US but the years since Obama have been rough

Pay may be numerically less in the eu, but rather than me trying to convince you, try on youtube: 'why I left the USA for europe'. There are very many.!

I've seen a lot of those and commonly the people are academics or in near median paying professions. Do high paid techies make the usa->Europe switch? Generally most of the grievances people have with the US disappear with a high enough salary. Like getting guarantees many weeks of vacation and having great healthcare.

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Post by jojomodding »

ericfr11 wrote: post #231
Braxton1980 wrote: post #216

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The majority of tax payers voted for this to happen

Voted for what? More pollution, more expensive gas, more expensive electricity??

Well, yes. The GOP's disdain for renewables is well-known and not recent.

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Post by carlosjobim »

brookst wrote: post #240
carlosjobim wrote: post #236

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Read official decisions from the defence forces of Finland and/or Sweden. Huge offshore wind projects have been stopped recently. Or be a reality denying hacker if you prefer.

I can’t make heads or tails of your point. Are you saying that because Sweden has to worry about Russia invading from the east, the US shouldn’t build any wind farms anywhere? That can’t be right. What do you really mean?

They don't want another surprise attack from the sea like pearl harbor.

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Post by danans »

ericfr11 wrote: post #231
Braxton1980 wrote: post #216

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The majority of tax payers voted for this to happen

Voted for what? More pollution, more expensive gas, more expensive electricity??

> Voted for what? More pollution, more expensive gas, more expensive electricity??

Yes, but the hope is that the downside happens to the people you don't like, and you somehow only get the upside.

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Post by tempestn »

carlosjobim wrote: post #243
brookst wrote: post #240

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I can’t make heads or tails of your point. Are you saying that because Sweden has to worry about Russia invading from the east, the US shouldn’t build any wind farms anywhere? That can’t be right. What do you really mean?

They don't want another surprise attack from the sea like pearl harbor.

You're saying offshore wind farms would prevent the US from detecting an intercontinental attack crossing the ocean?

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Post by digitalPhonix »

carlosjobim wrote: post #239
jondea wrote: post #215

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Could you give some sources for this? I can't seem to find anything with a cursory search, but I'd be interested in reading.

> Firms struggle to cope with Finnish military's wind turbine ban > More than 200 wind energy projects have been canned in south-east Finland due to concerns that they could disrupt military radar. https://yle.fi/a/3-10374540 Since then the military has just become stricter.

There's a big difference between

a) Finland needing fast & accurate RADAR tracking across their 50km gulf and restricting activity in the gulf as a result. Not just wind farms, other commercial activities are restricted in the Gulf of Finland including shipping.

b) USA restricting wind farms on it's east coast (NC and NY/NJ) where the nearest land is thousands of km away and no other commercial activities are meaningfully restricted.

(If the US can't field a RADAR for early warning off the east coast that can handle wind farms on the coast, we have other problems)

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Post by pptr »

This really seems like a nothing burger.

The $1B were a refund. Net exchange ~$0.

Building out fossile fuel production shifts oil revenue from various dictatorships around the world to the US in this case. That's a good thing. I wish we in Europe produced more gas ourselves instead of being highly dependent on other countries.

This does not mean higher gas demand, which is what matters for CO2 reduction.

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Post by gwerbin »

arjie wrote: post #237
stared wrote: post #160

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> [Major Major’s father's] specialty was alfalfa, and he made a good thing out of not growing any. The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow. The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn’t earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce. Major Major’s father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa. On…

These things are common. For instance, we pay dockworkers to not work so that they would let us do containerization. When they say they're striking, half of those striking dockworkers wouldn't be working anyway. They're paid not to so that we could use containers. When US ports finally automate, it will be the same. The boss of that union wears a Rolex because he's good at extracting these concessions from us. So her…

As much as I agree the longshoremen situation is "unappealing" from a policy perspective, it's not really a valid equivalence to compare a trade union trying to protect itself from being automated out of existence with a multinational corporation asking an historically corrupt government to let them use the $1bn that they were given for something other than its intended purpose.

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Post by vachina »

paxys wrote: post #212
terminalshort wrote: post #159

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Smart people know that you can't predict or plan for anything on anywhere close to that time horizon. The only plan is be adaptable.

> The only plan is be adaptable And that's exactly what the question was. You seem to consider yourself in the "smart people" ranks, so what's your big plan for adaptability?

Own huge swathes of land (there is plenty) and grow your own food.
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