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France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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Cruising speed of Charles de Gaulle is 27knots which would give the runner a pace of around 1:10mins/km depending on direction. That would really screw up your Strava stats

I occasionally see civilians on Strava doing the same thing, running laps around the deck of a cruise ship. The speeds and distances look ridiculous.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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We couldn’t find a commercial jet (MH370). Both, while it was still flying in the air and after it was presumably lost in the ocean. They couldn’t track it in the air nor can they still find its remains after looking for it for so long. This problem is not trivial.

There's a nonzero chance military intelligence agencies of multiple countries know exactly where that plane fell, but none can say anything, because that would reveal the true extent of their capabilities.

Just like it was with that amateur sub that imploded. It later surfaced the Navy heard the implosion and knew what it was.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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I seriously doubt there is a country on earth which lacks the capability to detect an aircraft carrier's presence in the Mediterranean sea. We are not talking about stealth vehicles.

Mediterranean maybe (although I'm not sure), but it's actually very hard to find a ship, even as large as an aircraft carrier, in the ocean. The empty space is just too big. Satellites have hard time taking pictures of every square mile of a sea to find any ship, yet alone the one you need.

> it's actually very hard to find a ship, even as large as an aircraft carrier, in the ocean

I just ran some googled numbers over my envelope, and I get that the Mediterranean sea (great circle distance between Gibraltar and Beirut is 2300mi) is about 14000x larger than the bow-to-stern length (858') of the carrier.

That's... not that terribly difficult as an imaging problem. Just a very tractable number of well-resolved 12k phone camera images would be able to bullseye it.

Obviously there are technical problems to be solved, like how to get the phones into the stratosphere on a regular basis for coverage, and the annoyance of "clouds" blocking the view. So it's not a DIY project.

But it seems eminently doable to me. The barriers in place are definitely not that the "empty space is just too big". The globe is kinda small these days.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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Yes, Russia helps Iran target our troops and (likely) sailors. But don't you dare suggest that hanging a portrait of Putin in the White House is inappropriate, or a Republican might get mad.

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I certainly hope so, but we've pretty much hung Ukraine out to dry under Trump [1], just like we did the Iranian protesters.

Unlike Russia, Ukraine evidently doesn't have any kompromat on Trump or the Republican Party in general.

1: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-military-aid-ukraine-...

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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post #242
post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a nonzero chance military intelligence agencies of multiple countries know exactly where that plane fell, but none can say anything, because that would reveal the true extent of their capabilities.

Just like it was with that amateur sub that imploded. It later surfaced the Navy heard the implosion and knew what it was.

Uhhh surfaced?

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mediterranean maybe (although I'm not sure), but it's actually very hard to find a ship, even as large as an aircraft carrier, in the ocean. The empty space is just too big. Satellites have hard time taking pictures of every square mile of a sea to find any ship, yet alone the one you need.

I really don’t want to work for the defense industry, but I have to admit that they do have very fun problems to solve. You know there are people at NRO who are dedicated to ship tracking via satellite. I assume they can easily track ships without cloud cover, but how do they do it when it’s cloudy? Heat signatures? Synthetic Aperture Radar? Wake detection?

> You know there are people at NRO who are dedicated to ship tracking via satellite.

I feel like there must be people at NRO whi are dedicated to sub tracking via satellite.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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post #77

I seriously doubt there is a country on earth which lacks the capability to detect an aircraft carrier's presence in the Mediterranean sea. We are not talking about stealth vehicles.

We couldn’t find a commercial jet (MH370). Both, while it was still flying in the air and after it was presumably lost in the ocean. They couldn’t track it in the air nor can they still find its remains after looking for it for so long. This problem is not trivial.

MH370 crashed in the Pacific.

Look at the globe some day from that angle and compare it to the Mediterranean.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We couldn’t find a commercial jet (MH370). Both, while it was still flying in the air and after it was presumably lost in the ocean. They couldn’t track it in the air nor can they still find its remains after looking for it for so long. This problem is not trivial.

A commercial jet is both way smaller and faster moving than an aircraft carrier. I suspect this is like saying: why can’t you see the fly in the photo, the turtle is right there!

It can also go over any part of the globe. The aircraft carrier is limited to non-shallow water.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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You can rent access to nearly real-time custom satellite targeting for <$3k per image. That means while you're correct that not all countries can afford it, most can.

What if US government bans US-based companies from selling pictures within area where carrier operates? (of all "national security" reasons these is one of more reasonable ones)

Do them publish the banned coordinates in a list too? Maybe they could put the reason at each line.
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