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Innocent woman jailed after being misidentified using AI facial recognition

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Re: Innocent woman jailed after being misidentified using AI facial recognition

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Post by fc417fc802 »

danso wrote: post #222
whack wrote: post #51

> According to the court documents, the Fargo detective working the case then looked at Lipps' social media accounts and Tennessee driver's license photo. In his charging document, the detective wrote that Lipps appeared to be the suspect based on facial features, body type and hairstyle and color. > Once they were in hand, Fargo police met with him and Lipps at the Cass County jail on Dec. 19. She had already been i…

> How is this the fault of AI? AI is being used by bureaucrats and enforcers to justify lazy, harmful conclusions. You don't live in the real world if you think "just punish the bureaucrats, don't make it about AI" is going to remotely rectify this toxic feedback loop and ecosystem.

No, we definitely should punish bureaucrats and enforcers who act negligently. If someone in a position of authority flagrantly fails to do his job and it directly harms someone he should be held accountable. That would provide a strong incentive for future actors to take their responsibilities seriously.

If an engineer signs off on an obviously faulty building plan and people die as a result we hold him accountable. This is no different.

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Post by chmod775 »

lokar wrote: post #193

This is a badly written story. It should explain if she saw a judge or had a lawyer.

You must have been reading something else, because this article includes all of that information.

> In Tennessee, she was given a court appointed lawyer for the extradition process. To fight the charges, she was told she would have to go to North Dakota.

> Officers from North Dakota did not pick up Lipps from her jail cell in Tennessee until Oct. 30 — 108 days after her arrest. The next day she made her first appearance in a North Dakota courtroom to fight the charges.

> "If the only thing you have is facial recognition, I might want to dig a little deeper," said Jay Greenwood, the lawyer representing Lipps in North Dakota.

Re: Innocent woman jailed after being misidentified using AI facial recognition

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

deepsun wrote: post #160
wat10000 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When are cops ever treated the same way as the rest of us?

Well in most cases I would prefer to have a cop's word to outweigh a word of an average joe.

Do you think police are inherently more honest than everybody else? Why would you think that?

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Post by DangitBobby »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #73
john_strinlai wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I hope she wrings at least several million dollars out of the government. which the citizens end up footing the bill for. yay.

Maybe they'll realize votes have consequences.

People famously do not learn from the experiences of others. It's a big reason why life is so hard when you'd expect it to be pretty easy based on our collective experience.

Re: Innocent woman jailed after being misidentified using AI facial recognition

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Post by DangitBobby »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #221
fluidcruft wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty common when a dog is abandoned. Likely her children couldn't afford to care for it. I suppose there is a chance they put it up for adoption (same outcome is likely).

Sorry. I really fucking hate this. I don’t imagine there is a charity somewhere that works against this?

I imagine if there had been anyone intervening in her favor it would have been to resolve her case faster than 5 months.

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Post by d--b »

What’s remarkable to me, beyond the total incompetence and stupidity of all the police people involved, is how incredibly aggressive the intervention was.

This is bank fraud case, for god’s sake, not an armed robbery. I don’t know the scale of it, but still, no one said she was a danger to anyone. She was a suspect, not a convict, and she was held at gunpoint while babysitting young children. What in the fucking world?

The US is so fucked up lately. People should chill the fuck out.

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Post by phendrenad2 »

silisili wrote: post #209
selcuka wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After a couple million dollar lawsuits the city or state will learn to be more careful with their methods. It's the taxpayer funds, but it's not an endless supply of money. Cities and states have their own budgets.

> After a couple million dollar lawsuits the city or state will learn to be more careful with their methods You'd think, but watching how many millions my local police department and city paid out every single year leads me to believe they just don't care.

How many, exactly? Anyone can wave vagueness around. Do you have numbers or no?

Re: Innocent woman jailed after being misidentified using AI facial recognition

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Post by fc417fc802 »

causal wrote: post #223
irishcoffee wrote: post #95

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This question doesn't even make sense. Why wouldn't humans still be the ones responsible? Bot account?

Doesn't look like it. I've come across this account a few times now. Engages and makes reasonable comments excepts for certain politicized issues where he acts like an indoctrinated zealot.
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