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The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by dylan604 »

amiantos wrote: post #239
dylan604 wrote: post #223

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If you think a site with only 209 visitors in the past 30 days is going to move the needle, then I've got news for you. Especially if bots are the main source of that visitors count. That's very very close to the number of people visiting your site being you, you, and maybe your mom type of numbers. After that, it'll be skiddies and bots. Anybody that's run their own site has been there, but let's not make it out to…

Why are you putting words/desires in my mouth that I did not voice? No one said anything about moving the needle. I said that my blog will go into Google results and help people, you said that sounded optimistic, so then I provided you proof that my blog already shows in google results and receives traffic. I've received messages from real people who have been helped by my writing on my blog, so it's not just bots. I…

Okay Freud, you're right. It's all about the attention. That's why you're the one publicly promoting their blog for what is it, right, attention.

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Post by myvoiceismypass »

amiantos wrote: post #112
pixl97 wrote: post #101

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Have you been on the internet at large lately? With google you may get one authoritative site on something and 50 bot copies of the site on different domains. Sometimes the stolen site is the number one return. Also, if you ran sites years/decades ago, you realized way back then the any local user posting was getting overran by spammers/bots. Now is so much worse that it's not worth doing in most cases. So, most post…

I spend all day every day on the Internet and I don't share your perspective. I might dislike centralized social media and yearn for a bygone era, but just in the past two days I had a very positive interaction with multiple real humans in the Commodore 64 subreddit that helped solve a problem I was having that isn't documented anywhere else on the internet yet. So then I went on my personal blog and blogged about it…

To be really blunt - why do you think your blog takes will 'get out there on google' and also 'help others'?

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Post by DANmode »

midtake wrote: post #111
jsheard wrote: post #95

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It's kind of bizarre that Zoom is still bothering to keep the lights on at Keybase when it's been completely fossilized for six years now. The writing is so obviously on the wall that nobody should be relying on it for anything, and yet they just won't let it die.

It's not fossilized, it's just that no one uses it. Put hot chicks on there or make it mandatory for logging into Slack and suddenly everyone will be using keybase.io, and honestly I think web of trust is a good idea and if a webapp can make it seem easy or intuitive then I'm all for it. We're scratching our heads wondering why there's no forward motion when it's simply that no one is pushing it.

> We're scratching our heads wondering why there's no forward motion

Did you miss “Zoom”?

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Post by DANmode »

meowkit wrote: post #64
kubb wrote: post #37

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I want cool cryptography where I can, e.g. verify where I'm writing from and what my age is without giving away any other information. Or if I want, I can verify that I'm myself, and eschew anonymity, and certain platforms should only accept contributions from people who don't hide their identity. Everyone knows who you are in the town square.

Zero Knowledge Proof schemes Applied ZKPs are being actively worked on in the blockchain sphere.

“A zero-knowledge rollup (zk-rollup) is a layer-2 scaling solution that moves computation and state off-chain into off-chain networks while storing transaction data on-chain on a layer-1 network (for example, Ethereum). State changes are computed off-chain and are then proven as valid on-chain using zero-knowledge proofs.”

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Post by ajam1507 »

This post's title is hyperbolic at best. At best the author is noticing what most people have known for a long time, there are bots on the internet. Most interactions I have online are with real people. Maybe we will end up with a dead internet, but moderation is still possible currently.

The elephant in the room is that a lot of social media companies have a conflict of interest. They can juice their user metrics by not moderating bots as well as they could be.

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Post by littlestymaar »

pixl97 wrote: post #127
littlestymaar wrote: post #77

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Anonymity is important for many things. But on the flip side it's responsible of many issues with the internet today, because it makes moderation pretty much impossible (anyone can always just create a new account). What we're missing is a way to have cryptographically secure pseudonymity: you log in to a website, you don't give any information whatsoever, but you cannot make two different accounts.

Most likely because your second sentence is impossible in one way or another. Even if it's some kind of government encoded key, governments cannot be trusted to create imaginary people and hand them out to companies like palantir for large scale population manipulation.

I can imagine a government creating a moderate number of fake profiles for use by police and intelligence services, and honestly I'm fine with it, but creating a ghost population for propaganda purpose is entirely different and if you live in a country where you cannot trust your government not to do something that bad, you're already screwd.

In any case, it is still better than the status quo where even foreign authoritarian states can do that in countries where the local government wouldn't.

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