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Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by blks »

wolvoleo wrote: post #190
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prostitution is not an industry known for its ethics or integrity.

That's only really in jurisdictions where it's illegal. It just comes with the criminal aspect. In Holland they even have a union called the red thread.

Even in jurisdictions where it’s legal it’s still filled with exploitation - e.g. soliciting 18 year olds to do various sex work, like pornography, while they may not necessary understand what they are getting into and just chasing money they cannot get elsewhere. And how it’s correctly stated, trafficking is still a thing.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by blks »

pjc50 wrote: post #148
enriquto wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers and their own customers. But this is the basic principle of capitalism. The company exploits workers (in order to obtain a net benefit from their work), and exploits customers (by selling the lowest-quality, most expensive product it can manage to). Companies that don't behave like that get out-competed by companies that do. This dynamic is the root of our economic syst…

The sex workers aren't legally speaking staff. It's a platform that takes a cut like all the app stores.

Sex workers often work for onlyfans agencies, that organise their content, hire people to chat for them, etc.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by blks »

sneak wrote: post #93
enriquto wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers and their own customers. But this is the basic principle of capitalism. The company exploits workers (in order to obtain a net benefit from their work), and exploits customers (by selling the lowest-quality, most expensive product it can manage to). Companies that don't behave like that get out-competed by companies that do. This dynamic is the root of our economic syst…

It’s not exploitation unless the participants in the deal are being coerced. You can’t make a solid case for employees being coerced to work for an exploitative employer outside of company towns or non-functioning labor markets; neither of these apply to the Philippines. If the chatter thought the job was so bad, they can quit and get a different one. Millions of people make that choice, it is available to them. Ther…

If you don’t work, you die, or at least suffer much worse quality of life, especially in poor countries or countries without a big social safety net.

There is a reason why in many places it’s considered highly unethical to pay people for organ, egg, blood donations, etc (besides just compensating lost wages/travel expenses).

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by kotaKat »

pjc50 wrote: post #150
theshrike79 wrote: post #126

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Even bigger stars seem to be doing it. This is Carmen Electra's _verified_ Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/CarmenElectra Scroll down a bit and you'll see all of the images have the exact same face plastered on a clearly AI body and the account is posting new photos multiple times per day. And every single post has thousands of likes and hundreds of messages from actual humans. People either don't notice the o…

Isn't it technically against Meta TOS anyway to promote sex work?

Sure, but it takes at least something like 17 founded reports to get someone punted off the platform, so good luck getting through the report-walls and AI content moderation to punt it out.

"Our robot thinks this is OK to post, so screw you."

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by dzonga »

autoexec wrote: post #22

How is this not fraud, or at least false advertising? If I'm paying money to chat with a specific sex worker how is it even legal to let some random dude in a third world country pretend to be the person I'm supposed to be talking to? I've never personally engaged in these types of systems, but I don't think there's a problem with them as long as they are run honestly. It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers an…

these are all symptoms - the larger problem is there's a lot of lonely men out there - specially in the small towns.

these people probably know they're not talking to the real model, but want someone to talk to.

someone insert Blaise Pascal quote

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by mhb »

swiftcoder wrote: post #229
phendrenad2 wrote: post #108

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So what is your point exactly? That we as a society should see to it that no matter how much sex work pays, we provide an equally high-paying and easy job for people? What do you propose?

The person I was replying to suggested that this person voluntarily chose this job over a bunch of equally good jobs. My point is that this is at best a mischaracterisation - they chose this job because of economic necessity. Yes, it may be that it pays more than equivalent non-porn jobs due to being rooted in foreign exchange. But that doesn't make it any more voluntary

How is that different than the reason most people work? Mining coal, putting out oil fires, industrial fishing. These are not only unpleasant - they are also dangerous.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

peterlk wrote: post #176
johannes1234321 wrote: post #117

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There is also that international problem. If an South American is frauded on an US American platform, by an east European using an African fake chatter: Which legislation, which court is applicable? Which oversight authority should handle this?

I don’t think this problem is that hard to solve, it just requires political will that doesn’t exist. The solution is to make it the platform’s problem. If the platform doesn’t want to deal with fraud, they don’t get to operate in that jurisdiction. Sue them into submission. If they don’t care about that geography, then there is now a gap in the market for a more local business to fill.

> I don’t think this problem is that hard to solve, it just requires political will that doesn’t exist

This is equivalent to saying "I don't think the problem is hard, it just requires an a simple solution that doesn't exist". Problems are hard problems specifically because simple easy solutions for them don't exist.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by nickthegreek »

system2 wrote: post #178
beejiu wrote: post #43

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(a) It's not prostitution, and (b) while prostitution is illegal in the US it's perfectly legal in the UK and many other countries.

(A) https://reason.com/2025/05/28/is-buying-onlyfans-content-now... (B) Just because the laws do not explicitly mention it does not make it less of a form of prostitution. (C) Selling your body regardless of the medium is prostitution. (D) I am looking at it from a moral perspective. Not legal. Let me know if you think selling your body is not prostitution.

selling your body for cash is what a warehouse worker does.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by e40 »

chrononaut wrote: post #85

As an aside: > OnlyFans, which generated $7.2bn (£5.3bn) revenue in 2024, .. I didn't expect their revenue to be that high, but I suppose it's also unsurprising.

Scott Galloway said the other day that their revenue per employee is higher than any company.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Post by PeterStuer »

autoexec wrote: post #22

How is this not fraud, or at least false advertising? If I'm paying money to chat with a specific sex worker how is it even legal to let some random dude in a third world country pretend to be the person I'm supposed to be talking to? I've never personally engaged in these types of systems, but I don't think there's a problem with them as long as they are run honestly. It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers an…

How many celebs, politicians, CEOs ... do you think manage their own socials?
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