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I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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This is a solved problem for at least ad blockers for over a decade on iOS. The ad blocking extension gives Safari a list of URLs and regex expressions to block

It's solved if you trust Safari. I'm not sure that's the case for the parent poster.

So you don’t “trust” Safari but you trust Firefox? In 25 years absolutely no one has accused Apple of storing your browsing data that’s not e2e encrypted (its stored so it can sync across devices).

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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I'm fine with providing my identity for online banking and other finance platforms for legal & taxation purposes. I can't think of a single other use case in which I'd be willing to verify my identity. I'd rather go back to hosting email myself, and am fine with circumventing content access control for all other platforms for personal use. We're seeing the world slide towards authoritarian strongmen, and we want to g…

The problem is those self-same authoritarian strongmen are very successfully using sockpuppeting to change national discourses in ways that benefit them and are detrimental to the targeted countries. Hybrid war is real and has been ongoing for more than a decade. LLMs make it way more cost effective. Being able to limit the influence of external bad actors is the main goal of ID verification. Age verification is a us…

> Being able to limit the influence of external bad actors is the main goal of ID verification.

How does automatically determining your age serve the goal of ID verification? It seems like most sites are choosing this as the first option. If the point was to link your ID, why wouldn't they ask everyone to provide it?

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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The problem is, we haven't really created a safer world. We created an illusion of safety by taking away agency. We might be safer in terms of vulnerabilities, root exploits, RCEs, etc. but the internet is still full of malware, scams are still just as rampant. Vigilance is still very much required, but is no longer taught. Look at all the malware available on the Play Store. The curation does nothing but create an i…

It’s absolutely safer browsing the internet now than it was when I was a kid. Getting a virus or equivalent on your phone is no small feat

Is it that much different? In the past if you downloaded the wrong file, you could get ads opening constantly, a new toolbar taking over your browser, data scraped and sent off to a mystery server, or have some process maximise your compute.

This accounted for most of the risks on the wild west internet, but the worst case scenario of permanently losing data or having to reinstall Windows was actually rarer than it was made out to be imho.

These days the common risks are the same, except they're no longer risks - all of those have been built into the fabric of everyday internet usage and criminals have been replaced by businesses. It's like the cliche about Vegas being better when it was run by the mob.

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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> How would you implement ability to arbitrarily block any network connection on any website without giving an extension 100% access? Browsers should provide a filtering option before they makes a request. IMO a lot of no-brainer options are missing from personal computers. Like the ability to start a program with restricted access to files, network or OS calls (on Windows and on Linux). Browsers should provide the a…

We do sort of have that with the capabilities stuff (although I admit hardly anyone knows how to use it). But the tricky part is that "reading files" is done all the time in ways you might not think of as "reading files". For example loading dynamic libraries involves reading files. Making network connections involves reading files (resolv.conf, hosts). Formatting text for a specific locale involves reading files. Wo…

OP says "restricted access to files". Read access to your home directory is not required for loading dynamic libraries or printing the time.

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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The problem is, we haven't really created a safer world. We created an illusion of safety by taking away agency. We might be safer in terms of vulnerabilities, root exploits, RCEs, etc. but the internet is still full of malware, scams are still just as rampant. Vigilance is still very much required, but is no longer taught. Look at all the malware available on the Play Store. The curation does nothing but create an i…

It’s absolutely safer browsing the internet now than it was when I was a kid. Getting a virus or equivalent on your phone is no small feat

It happens all the time, and its as easy as sending a phone a text, or a packet, or escaping a sandbox, but you'll rarely be aware of it when you're infected because unlike the old days where malware would fill your screen with ads or something today they just silently collect your data or use your internet connection for careful port scans or DDoS attacks. NSO Group spyware (or similar) could be on your phone right now.

Hell, cellphones these days ship with spyware pre-installed. Samsung being the one of the worst for filling their phones with their own apps which spy on you constantly.

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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post #240

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First of all, if you don't practice any tracking limitation, you're almost certainly giving additional parties (directly or otherwise) access to your personal information. This is marketing data brokerage, this is the whole ballgame. To your point about the actual harm, I've come to see it as a kind of ecological problem. Wasting energy and sending more trash to a landfill doesn't harm me individually, at least not i…

The effect of that data is serving you better ads. Its not a big deal. Dystopian governments have way better sources of citizen data than anonymized ad exchanges. It basically just powers product discovery in a giant global marketplace.

I’m glad you mention this. From today https://www.404media.co/cbp-tapped-into-the-online-advertisi...

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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I am in my mid forties, been working as a professional software developer for over 20 years. I click “accept the cookies” almost every time. I just personally don’t feel it’s worth the effort and cost to try to avoid it. What “dark pattern cookie trick” are you worried about? I just can’t come up with a scenario where it will actually harm me in any way. All the examples I have heard are either completely implausible…

> I click “accept the cookies” almost every time. I just personally don’t feel it’s worth the effort and cost to try to avoid it. the effort and cost to download an ad-blocker that automatically removes the prompt to accept/deny entirely is practically zero and the amount of clicks you'd save yourself would quickly exceed the clicks it took to install the blocker. > I just don’t think it is something that is worth st…

> the effort and cost to download an ad-blocker that automatically removes the prompt to accept/deny entirely is practically zero

It's only zero if you don't need to interact with sites that break when you're running an adblocker. I run an ad-blocker nearly continuously, but there are all sorts of sites where I have to disable it in order to use the actual functionality of the site (and these are frequently sites I _have_ to interact with).

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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I am in my mid forties, been working as a professional software developer for over 20 years. I click “accept the cookies” almost every time. I just personally don’t feel it’s worth the effort and cost to try to avoid it. What “dark pattern cookie trick” are you worried about? I just can’t come up with a scenario where it will actually harm me in any way. All the examples I have heard are either completely implausible…

> I click “accept the cookies” almost every time. I just personally don’t feel it’s worth the effort and cost to try to avoid it. the effort and cost to download an ad-blocker that automatically removes the prompt to accept/deny entirely is practically zero and the amount of clicks you'd save yourself would quickly exceed the clicks it took to install the blocker. > I just don’t think it is something that is worth st…

this is definitely happening and for some reason, no one has any clear evidence on it.

Conspiracy theories are gossip for men.

Re: I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services

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I am in my mid forties, been working as a professional software developer for over 20 years. I click “accept the cookies” almost every time. I just personally don’t feel it’s worth the effort and cost to try to avoid it. What “dark pattern cookie trick” are you worried about? I just can’t come up with a scenario where it will actually harm me in any way. All the examples I have heard are either completely implausible…

> I click “accept the cookies” almost every time. I just personally don’t feel it’s worth the effort and cost to try to avoid it. the effort and cost to download an ad-blocker that automatically removes the prompt to accept/deny entirely is practically zero and the amount of clicks you'd save yourself would quickly exceed the clicks it took to install the blocker. > I just don’t think it is something that is worth st…

> the effort and cost to download an ad-blocker that automatically removes the prompt to accept/deny entirely is practically zero and the amount of clicks you'd save yourself would quickly exceed the clicks it took to install the blocker.

For less-often used, e.g., non-English language sites, these often leave a site in an unusable state, e.g., non-scrollable. I often have to go into the developer tools to fix a site manually, sometimes hunting for the element to fix if it's not body or html.

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