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Post by oofbey »

signorovitch wrote: post #120

My only issue with ghostty is it isn’t immediately recognized by some programs through ssh (eg less) and they don’t operate properly. However there’s a one liner that solves the problem permanently on the remote machine[0] so it isn’t too bad. Hopefully in the near future ghostty’s terminfo will be shipped with common linux distros. [0] https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo

I find this docs page fairly hilarious. Complaining about how the rest of the world is in the stone ages, and that is why ghostty doesn’t work with it.

For me, a terminal program that requires me to muck with every machine I log into to get it to work is pretty horrible. I connect to a lot of different machines every work dat. Often they’re not machines I maintain. Making that harder is exactly the opposite of what I want from a key tool like a terminal program.

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Post by xeonmc »

rvz wrote: post #196
thewebguyd wrote: post #110

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Right? It’s been kind of funny watching everyone “rediscover” the terminal and I’m over here feeling like a true graybeard “silly kids, I’ve been here the whole time.” What’s old is new again is apparently just as true in tech as it is in fashion.

It's because the web developers who destroyed the web are now taking their mess with them into more obscure places, such as terminals, hardware and AI. That's probably why it is so hyped up as it is right now.

Embrace, Embellish, Enshittify.

Re: Ghostty – Terminal Emulator

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Post by linsomniac »

makeramen wrote: post #179
linsomniac wrote: post #157

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mitchellh: What is the current thinking WRT adding client/server functionality (like built-in tmux+mosh)? I recall you talking about it on the Changelog podcast, and that would be a killer feature for me; I really make a lot of use of the wezterm equivalent, it's so nice having first-class UI windows rather than tmux's faking of it.

Zellij has been holding me over with tabs and panes (in quick terminal) while I wait for them to come to ghostty directly. Tabs (and panes? I haven't tried yet) should work fine for regular terminal windows though.

Just to clarify, it's more about the ability to run a terminal on my Linux box and connect and disconnect to it from my Mac that I'm looking for. Wezterm does a good job of this. Previously I was using tmux and mosh and Nebula, and that worked really great for reconnecting (I almost never had to reconnect, it just stayed live, wezterm I need to reconnect all the time, but that works reliably). But copy-paste with tmux is meh.

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Post by HatchedLake721 »

sponno wrote: post #183

Loving how well Ghostty works and looks. When running several Projects I need quite a few tabs as all these AI agents take sometime to complete. Overhead tabs get real messy very quickly. Multiple windows become a nightmare quickly. Side bar tabs have been my solution. I love iTerms sidebar tabs - I add emojis to mine for my key projects and any subtask just lives under the master tab like a folder. Would love to see…

Ghostty with sidebars and more https://github.com/manaflow-ai/cmux

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Post by EmperorClawd »

mitchellh wrote: post #33

I'm the original creator of Ghostty. It's been a few years now! I don't know why this is on the front page of HN again but let me give some meaningful updates across the board. First, libghostty is _way more exciting_ nowadays. It is already backing more than a dozen terminal projects that are free and commercial: https://github.com/Uzaaft/awesome-libghostty I think this is the real future of Ghostty and I've said th…

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Post by mitchellh »

novok wrote: post #240
mitchellh wrote: post #223

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It's been extremely good. I should really blog about it in more detail because I do get asked this question regularly. It's been very good. The large language changes are a burden, but it's something I knew going into it. And so far in every case, it's been well worth it. For example, 0.15 introduced the std.Io.Writer overhaul, but I really love the new API. I haven't started the std.Io change yet for 0.16. We'll see…

Do you get frustrated in using a low training data language like zig with AI models? I've noticed that models tend to be better with languages like TypeScript than Swift because of issues like that.

Not at all. Give it tools and skills and it figures it out very quickly. Must be an agent. Don't use chat.

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Post by chrysoprace »

pkulak wrote: post #87
WD-42 wrote: post #71

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Mitchell, What has it been like witnessing terminal emulators make such a huge comeback with the advent of Claude Code et. all? I remember comments here in the early days of Ghostty along the lines of "Why is he working on a terminal emulator? We need people working on future problems, not the past!" Pretty funny considering I regularly hear people say they are in the terminal more than the browser now. Crazy times!

Wait, really? So I’ve used the terminal for everything for decades, and now, because of vibe coding, all The Kids have joined me? I don’t even know how to feel about that. Better terminals are nice though.

I think terminal workflows are intimidating for a lot of people, because the discoverability is lower than GUIs. You can't necessarily intuit how a CLI works, you have to read the documentation or watch a tutorial, which my 10 years in the IT industry has taught me a big barrier even for really experienced SWEs. The new coding TUIs are a more gentle introduction to that.

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Post by eevmanu »

mitchellh wrote: post #237
scuff3d wrote: post #235

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That's super interesting to hear. I see people say all the time "oh I would never use it in a big project because it's changing so fast", but then see awesome projects like Ghostty and Tiger Beatle written in it, so clearly they're doing something right. I'm surprised to hear LLMs have been helpful. What little I tried to use them for with Zig, all the information was way too out of date. But I was mainly just doing…

Yes, LLMs with Zig are absolutely useless without agentic behaviors. Throw an agent in the mix and it's totally fine. Bonus points if you pair it with some basic agent skills so it knows how to look up language references, stdlib files, etc. then it does even better.

Would you mind sharing or pointing me to any links that explain how you've set up Zig to work effectively with LLMs using agentic features?

I was thinking that downloading the full official documentation, separated by sections inside the repository someone is working on with Zig, could be useful, but maybe there are more optimal ways to approach this.

Thanks.

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Post by scuff3d »

mitchellh wrote: post #237
scuff3d wrote: post #235

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That's super interesting to hear. I see people say all the time "oh I would never use it in a big project because it's changing so fast", but then see awesome projects like Ghostty and Tiger Beatle written in it, so clearly they're doing something right. I'm surprised to hear LLMs have been helpful. What little I tried to use them for with Zig, all the information was way too out of date. But I was mainly just doing…

Yes, LLMs with Zig are absolutely useless without agentic behaviors. Throw an agent in the mix and it's totally fine. Bonus points if you pair it with some basic agent skills so it knows how to look up language references, stdlib files, etc. then it does even better.

I'll have to give it another try the next time I play around with Zig. I decided to let all the big changes with IO and what not play out before diving back in lol.

I've been slow on the agent pickup. The ethical issues really bother me (LLMs in general), though it's clear I'm not gonna have a choice in this industry so I've been caving recently. The persistent narrative that agents can build entire complex software systems is also irritating, because that clearly doesn't seem to align with reality.

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Post by mijoharas »

mijoharas wrote: post #216
mitchellh wrote: post #33

I'm the original creator of Ghostty. It's been a few years now! I don't know why this is on the front page of HN again but let me give some meaningful updates across the board. First, libghostty is _way more exciting_ nowadays. It is already backing more than a dozen terminal projects that are free and commercial: https://github.com/Uzaaft/awesome-libghostty I think this is the real future of Ghostty and I've said th…

Hey Mitchell, thanks for ghostty (happy user here for a month or two). Is there anywhere I can look to see the status of the next planned release? I've been waiting for the vim feature to hit stable, and have just been checking to see if there's a new release every so often, but I couldn't find a discussion or anything to see when it was planned.

Nvm. Had another look, and I think I found it? Is it this: https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/milestone/7
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