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Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

Actually Google Gemini provides almost no control on the data you share. Same for Antigravity. No "opt-out" button, even as a lie. Even when you are a paying user. Only Google Workplace users have some control. There is a setting in Gemini but it removes all your chat history. For Antigravity, I think there is nothing preventing them from use your code and data your agents upload in the background unless you are a wo…

It's all or nothing for Gemini Pro.

I can't set a voice reminder on my Pixel without giving full access to my Google workspace (which includes all emails) which is explicitly allowed to be trained on per the terms. There is no per app toggle.

Voice reminders were the only thing assistants did well for years.

We are going backwards.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Just boycott them all if you can. That's what I've done. Some people's livelihoods probably depends on Claude and they can't say use Glm4.7 on HF. Fine. But it's a moral compromise, that's life sometimes you need to compromise what you want for what you need. just don't tell yourself it's a reasonable line to hold. I can't decouple from Google unfortunately but I accept that without fooling myself into thinking "Oh b…

I agree, if you can do boycott all of them (and maybe use open weight models locally or on e2ee cloud inference providers) - BUT I also think it 's crucial at a moment like this to take a stance against corporations like openAi that sign with the War Department, willing to introduce mass surveillance and autonomous weapons powered by brittle LLMs. This is a recipe for disaster and the only way they will sway away is…

>the DoW [...] the War Department

This is the same as saying "Gulf of America". Don't buy the propaganda. The name of the Department of Defense can only be changed by Congress.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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post #79

Next week Anthropic will do something evil and everyone will be moving back to OpenAI. Crazy thought but maybe we should regulate AI instead of relying on the hegemony of three companies to police themselves.

This is obviously the ideal, but we have to operate in reality as it is today while pushing in the direction of the ideal.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Here’s my take: - when I saw Altman driving a multimillion dollar car while OpenAI was still a nonprofit, all of his scientists left to start rival firms, and the details of why they tried to fire him were legit, I dumped ChatGPT and moved to the new company - Anthropic. - The Pro Max $200/month subscription has uncapped my workflow to where I’ve created several substantial and complex applications in compressed time…

> when I saw Altman driving a multimillion dollar car while OpenAI was still a nonprofit If that would be a first time founder that would be much more of a red flag than for someone’s who’s already beyond rich and powerful even before OpenAI became a thing.

Yeah I know he’d already bagged, but the optics were bad. The rest of my statement stands.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Pour one out for the dev who got called on saturday morning to break the account deletion process

If he breaks it for a day or two half the deletions won't happen. That said, I doubt there's very many.

The lament I think is more that this is a kind of "dark pattern" that's not really regulated. IMO it should be as easy to delete an account as it is to sign up. To my mind, this is very similar to subscribing/unsubscribing which IIRC is regulated now.

The overall point I'm making is that it is "gross" when companies do stuff like this and yet there's zero accountability. Or when it comes to reliability of account deletion tech companies put up their hands and say "whoops technology is hard."

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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post #231

Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

Actually Google Gemini provides almost no control on the data you share. Same for Antigravity. No "opt-out" button, even as a lie. Even when you are a paying user. Only Google Workplace users have some control. There is a setting in Gemini but it removes all your chat history. For Antigravity, I think there is nothing preventing them from use your code and data your agents upload in the background unless you are a wo…

FYI I am a paying Workspace customer. I disabled Gemini retention. Doing so means no chat history sidebar- all are ephemeral. It was org-level. That became impractical. I re-enabled it. Magically, all of my old chats were back. The ones during no retention mode weren’t there. Perhaps if I’d left it off for more than 30 days the old stuff would have been truly removed.

The point is there is no conversation-level controls. It’s incredibly user-hostile.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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post #89

Normally I'd be quite cynical here and say few people will actually do this, but it's OpenAI and Anthropic is an arguably superior option anyway. I've only given money to Anthropic in the first place. Why have people been doing business with OpenAI? Is it better than Claude at something I'm not familiar with?

I personally am getting better results with codex recently. Claude ($20 plan) honestly comes across as a total ai slop turd of an app (unreliable, frequent incidents, burns through the token after 2-3 prompts that just clinfinite loop doing nothing). Codex will iterate much faster.

And yet so many people are having success with Claude Code. Perhaps you can learn from their experiences.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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post #239

Here’s my take: - when I saw Altman driving a multimillion dollar car while OpenAI was still a nonprofit, all of his scientists left to start rival firms, and the details of why they tried to fire him were legit, I dumped ChatGPT and moved to the new company - Anthropic. - The Pro Max $200/month subscription has uncapped my workflow to where I’ve created several substantial and complex applications in compressed time…

Tangent, but: > The open source models are extraordinarily effective. Which models are you referring to? (And in particular, which sizes/versions?)

It’s a fast moving science so I’m still in the middle of defining what my at-home setup will be. I think there will be a tipping point where cheaper hardware plus new models reaches a pro-consumer effectiveness level.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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post #79

Next week Anthropic will do something evil and everyone will be moving back to OpenAI. Crazy thought but maybe we should regulate AI instead of relying on the hegemony of three companies to police themselves.

Is this how you justify not doing anything?

Is this how you justify doing pointless things?
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