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US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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How can you be so confrontational and still want people to give you business and data? I really don't envy the diplomats' job at the moment.

Most 'diplomats' of the new USA are just grifters like Witkoff or Kushner. Real estate people cosplaying diplomats. The US as the world has known it is gone https://apnews.com/article/france-us-ambassador-kushner-far-...

Another example from Denmark: https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/28/europe/us-embassy-copenha...

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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Similarly, in the 2000s, the US pushed back against the development of Galileo and preferred that Europe continue relying on GPS. That created tensions between the US and the EU. Fighting data sovereignty is a losing battle for the US: data are too strategic to outsource, even to allies. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)

also, just like galileo, this seem to be the correct path for europe to take.

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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> The EU is to blame for cookie banners on basically every website on the internet. This is the most low-rent complaint imaginable and it boggles my mind how I keep seeing it made straight-faced. One time I literally timed how long it took me to dismiss a EU cookie banner, it was about 350ms and only needs to be done once per site. All this outrage is over 350ms and I cannot take it seriously.

Also, why would you not want cookie banners? I prefer being able to choose to opt out of them, even if it's annoying

I think the general vibe I get from some Americans is that they're OK with some abuse, as long as you don't tell them about it or do it to your face, and they would rather have some abuse than none but having to make their own choices. Of course, small subsection of people, but plenty of HN commentators make that exact case over and over whenever the discussions about cookie banners come up.

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Europe, if you want good tech businesses you need to create a tech business friendly environment. Banning US tech companies without creating (really) fertile grounds for business is just going to be shooting yourself in the foot. A replacement Google won't grow on a farm only fed worker/consumer fertilizer. It's almost diabolical that the only way Europe can get rid of the US, is to be more like the US.

On the other hand, if US tech businesses want to keep access to European markets they shouldn't support US politicians who want to override the sovereignty of those nations.

Businesses exist to fill a demand. And the market will pay accordingly. For example:

Spotify SE == Napster US

Netflix US == Lovefilm UK

Craigslist US == Gumtree UK

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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> other companies from US and Japan like Coherent and Canon could have a crack at replicating the laser and mirrors given enough IP and resources if the US really wanted to decouple from ASML, since they're still man made objects, not magic things given by gods. this exact same logic applies the other way, though... unless Cymer is selling magic objects given by gods? > Do you think the country that built the SR-72 a…

I agree with you, but that was my point exactly. No party holds all the cards to dictate the rules of the game like people bullish on ASML thought that they're somehow untouchable. They're untouchable because the US allows them to be because they play ball with the US admin and push back against rules they don't like from the Dutch government. It's a gentlemen's agreement that will be held together by mutually assure…

> can't decide how to tackle illegal mass migration

the mass migration caused by american wars in the middle east you mean? Also, frontex seems to be working fine so far.

>on a single direction on defeating Russia

unlike the US, which has stopped all military aid to ukraine in 2025, and seems to be favouring russia more and more.

Lets not forget, europe is increasing its military en masse mainly because on one hand you have the russian flattening ukraine, and on other hand you have the US demanding greenland.

Who needs further enemies with friends like this?

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The EU could also cut US access to clearing houses (Clearstream / EuroClear) or the SWIFT payment system.

>The EU could also cut US access to clearing houses (Clearstream / EuroClear) or the SWIFT payment system. Right, so that the USA would cut us from DTCC? Eu finance sector is MUCH more dependent on access to US markets than the other way around.

is it though?

for everything inside the EU, i highly doubt it is. For extraterritioral trade. The EU is large enough to trade with other countries in euros instead of dollars.

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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But we have our own issues outside of the US. They reality is the average person is between a rock and a hard place.

Major US tech businesses are making money with analytics/ads though, so they would never roll out end-to-end encryption in a serious way. At least outside the US, a lot of E2E-encrypted services are popping up (Proton, Zeitkapsl, etc.). I don't trust the small number of E2E US services at all. E.g., some of the companies that were/are in PRISM seem to have very convenient 'accidental' backdoors. E.g. WhatsApp doing b…

On the other hand Apple can no longer off ADP in the UK.[0]

That some businesses are not trustworthy seems less a concern for me, than that many governments would like to make all business insecure by design.

[0] https://support.apple.com/en-gb/122234

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Why are US tech stocks not falling yet due to the trend of countries decoupling?

What are you talking about? There's been a ~18% drop in tech sector this past month (see: IGV) I don't know if it's due to "decoupling" but there has been some selling recently.

That's mostly AI panic based on the narratives swirling around in finance news. I'd agree this threat of decoupling is more serious, but I also think the market knows that US tech is so deeply embedded everywhere that decoupling will take decades.
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