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Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Good. But people should not have pointed cameras into public spaces and live streamed everything to the cloud to begin with. Walking past a house with a camera doorbell makes me really uncomfortable, like I'm being watched.

I'm interested in the laws around these cameras. Is it illegal to record eg parts of your neighbor's private property? Are you liable or is Amazon?

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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The ad https://youtu.be/OheUzrXsKrY?si=oHH1hBRIYjNNgPZT

Thanks. This is actually kinda cute. After all the shit Amazon and the company did I am surprised this should be the thing that gets people worried

It is too-obviously intentionally designed to be “kinda cute.” It is clear to anybody who watched it that the people making the ad knew they needed a sort of euphemistic (or whatever) way of pitching their surveillance system.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Funny how a single superbowl ad from Ring themselves was able to do in one weekend what a thousand and one anti Ring bloggers were unable to do for the past 10 years straight. This commercial and the response will probably be studied in marketing classes.

I think most people were unaware or only very vaguely aware that your Ring camera would do anything but show you who's at the door.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Any good alternatives? Preferably one that stores images on a local docker instance running within my network.

Frigate is very good: https://frigate.video/

Personally, I use Zoneminder: https://zoneminder.com/ Zoneminder is very "janky" but predictable.

I set mine up about three years ago, and it's been nice and boring since: https://nbailey.ca/post/nvr

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Thanks. This is actually kinda cute. After all the shit Amazon and the company did I am surprised this should be the thing that gets people worried

If it wasn't for the ICE situation there probably wouldn't even be any backlash. It is getting people to finally open their eyes a little bit and see how this post patriot act world we've built for ourselves actually operates.

The revolution will not be televised

But it's seeming like the trigger for it will be

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Bud Light's stock performance last year would like to have a word with you.

Could you analyse AB InBev's stock performance in that period? Because it doesn't look bad to me. [1] It looks like it was $65 before the boycott in April 2023, falling to $55 a couple of months later. But it was back up to $65 by the end of the year. It sits at $80 today. If I hadn't told you the date of the boycott, would you have been able to spot it on this chart? [1] - https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock…

On the contrary. It appears that Bud Light sales continued to fall.

https://sherwood.news/business/beer-bud-light-market-share-b...

Budweiser stock did recover, but they haven't (afaik) repeated the behavior that got them boycotted in the first place. It appears that this boycott achieved exactly what was sought.

I'd agree that this is a rare exception, and that boycotts are almost never successful. But this really is an example of that unicorn.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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And, you know, if it was actually mobilized to find lost puppies, I'd be all for that shit. But that's not what it's for. It's for helping cops find poor people, or ICE find Mexicans, or whatever bullshit is making the headlines in 4 weeks. FWIW, I don't like being a tech downer/skeptic, but every fucking thing is like this now. Every social media is being turned into surveillance. Every cloud-based application, no m…

are the christofascists in the room with us? you don't think marxists use this technology for nefarious means? chinese social credit must be a myth. the both sides thing is right, you dont remember the lockdowns over a cold, mandated behavioral changes, and countries sending people to "isolation camps" and pressing digital id? yeah tho its just the "christofascists" huh? you people only care when illegal invaders get…

Lol are the Marxists mandating that teachers hang the Communist Manifesto on the walls of classrooms? Use your eyes, ears, and brain.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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The camera is absolutely doable for 150€. Just look what raspberry Pi costs. The cut all the corners, take ancient ddr2 memory, ancient processor, optimize every piece for manufacturing and it’s done. Of course, CE testing and regulatory nonsense is not included. But would you buy 150€ camera or the same camera with proper certification for 200€?

What's not doable is the cloud storage and app maintenance for that fixed price.

I would speculate about volume. My employer can provide bsp for 5000 sold devices with thin profit. With 1000000 sold cameras it’s different equity and probably enough for not that fancy app.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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no, israel demanded the tiktok thing due to the backlash they are recieving for genocide and ethnic cleansing. their faithful servants in america simply did as their master commanded.

"From the river to the sea" is a literal call for Israel to be ethnically cleansed. Both sides want to kill each other very badly, only one side has the capability at the moment.

as interesting side note:

geographic "from to " slogans are very commonly used in such contexts. Basically you take a are geographically split into multiple regions, make a "from->to" slogan which treats this areas as one unit in between and imply through it that it should be all homogeneous (weather it's about country boraders or ethnicity)

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Like e.g. the German national anthem is based on a song from 1841, i.e. it predates WW1,2 and in turn the current German border.

Due to this the first verse refers to boarder rivers which by now lie outside of Germany (and and has other issues related to sever misinterpretation of most of the verse).

This lead to it being abused by Nazis and later neo-nazis to mean Germany should go to war and size various border regions.

But Germany did need a national anthem and this song has a lot of important history meaning unrelated to WW2/Nazis. So west Germany decided to make it the anthem again, but only sing the 3rd verse for official occasions. Through due to continuous abuse of neo-nazies of the first verse this was changed with reunification and today only the 3rd verse is the official national anthem.

Anyway I got a bit off topic but "from to verses" crossing country boarders (or "ethnic" boarders if used in some "ethnic" context) are most times "pretend to be harmless" slogans of extremists, even if they have a history where they had other meaning (like with the first verse of the song the German national anthem is based on).

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