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Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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Post by abraxas »

pragmatic wrote: post #224
twobitshifter wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who thought Google+ doomed facebook, because of Gmail accounts and everyone with Google as their homepage already, I learned not to overestimate Google’s abilities.

How in the world would you have thought that? Genuinely curious. It was obviously DOA and waaaayyy outside G'scompetence.

I thought it was a far superior UI to facebook when it launched. I tried to use it but the gravity of the network effect was too strong on facebook's side.

In the end I'd rather if both had failed. Although one can argue that they actually did. But that's another story.

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Post by hobofan »

kccqzy wrote: post #165
criddell wrote: post #134

I wonder how good it is for companies to be allowed to grow so big and still be private? Would it makes sense to require any company with more than a billion dollar valuation to be subject to all the same SEC requirements that public companies are? Could companies be blocked from raising money once the reach a crazy valuation like $1 billion?

That doesn’t make sense at all. The raison d’être of SEC is to protect regular mom-and-pop investors. A private company just doesn’t allow anyone to invest in them. Why should SEC rules apply? On what legal basis can you force a private company to divulge its financial details? Would you be happy if you, as an individual, have to divulge your account statements if your own net wealth reaches one million?

> The raison d’être of SEC is to protect regular mom-and-pop investors

That's not the sole reason. They (should) also enforce a fair even playing field by preventing market manipulation (e.g. how Elon was tweeting about stock prices) and a few other things to "facilitate efficient markets and the formation of capital".

> Why should SEC rules apply?

Because private companies still fall under the jurisdiction of the SEC? See e.g. Theranos.

> On what legal basis can you force a private company to divulge its financial details?

On the to-be-created legal basis that aims to prevent bubble formation and the resulting fallout to the wider society?

> Would you be happy if you, as an individual, have to divulge your account statements if your own net wealth reaches one million?

Sure, why not? It's not a totally unheard of idea. In Norway everyones salary can be looked up.

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

browningstreet wrote: post #222
Yizahi wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depend on the definition of the "product". For example some banal cloud storage in which everyone competes. And it's an "old" product, despite being invisibly improved behind the scenes, just like at any other provider. Google has pretty competitive storage AND they are fully abusing Android integration for AND they have pretty good bundling of that storage with other products, including, you've guessed it - LLM Gemi…

Google Drive is easily the worst of the desktop cloud storage options. It’s okay for Google Docs but not other files if that’s what you’re talking about..

Which one would you say is the best?

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Post by [deleted] »

Esophagus4 wrote: post #206
jrjeksjd8d wrote: post #119

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Matt Levine has put this forward in his newsletter - if you're moderately influential you can go on TV and tell people that "X industry will be dead in 10 years" because of AI and then profit from the inevitable stock dip. Because we live in the worst possible timeline the end result for AI companies does seem to be "too big to fail", where these massive investments will get foisted on working class people via a bail…

His newsletter (and podcast) are fantastic.

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Post by MayeulC »

WarmWash wrote: post #220
kgabis wrote: post #186

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I wonder what makes EU so wealthy to just buy stuff everywhere - maybe it's the export of high-end technologies inaccessible to US and China?

The EU is no way share or form in a good economic position right now. That's why euro leaders have been kowtowing to Trump despite him being a deranged lunatic. Delete all American software, American defense, American energy, and Chinese hardware from the EU tomorrow. That's the deep-seated unease that keeps EU leaders up at night. Europe needs to be doing 3-4% GDP growth annually and have a globally competitive top…

> Just like the US not bankrolling half of Ukraine's defense would be unthinkable...

This is outdated. Look at page 4 of this report for instance: https://www.kielinstitut.de/publications/europe-steps-up-ukr...

Their data is not perfect as they rely on public sources, and some governments are more transparent than others, but the reality is that US funding all but vanished in 2025.

Back to the topic, there is also a pattern of promising European startups being bought by wealthy USA incumbent companies. This is also happening to established compagnies: see ARM, Alstom Power, etc. As Europe de-couples from the USA in the current context, I suspect (and hope) that such acquisitions will come under more regulatory scrutiny.

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Post by longfacehorrace »

lenerdenator wrote: post #153
longfacehorrace wrote: post #139

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OpenAI has "open" in their name but is closed off to public access and input Google used to have a motto "don't be evil" Who enforces the definition of language? Who demands compliance? Soon as we go down the path of policing and insistence on one true dogma, we veer into religious holy war type behavior. Obsession with semantics of syntax is a sort of theism even if the syntax and semantics do not refer to the commo…

In this case, it has to do with how they're classified under Delaware law as a corporate entity. I'm not a lawyer (I don't even play one on TV, damn you Odenkirk) so I can't tell you what that means as far as case law for companies getting punished for behaving badly, but in this case, there is supposedly some sort of legal backing for the classification.

Laws are words with zero meaning if they go unenforced.

Politicians are not interested in assuring such.

Public is busy arguing semantics online; they are not interested in assuring such.

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Post by yieldcrv »

kooshball wrote: post #182
criddell wrote: post #134

I wonder how good it is for companies to be allowed to grow so big and still be private? Would it makes sense to require any company with more than a billion dollar valuation to be subject to all the same SEC requirements that public companies are? Could companies be blocked from raising money once the reach a crazy valuation like $1 billion?

there used to be rules that companies must be public if they have other 1000 investors. is this no longer the case?

it's still the case, but there are never 1,000 investors, there's a couple dozen VC firms, SPVs, and individuals

if you're smart.

I don't think this is an SEC problem, they are fully aware that people subject to their jurisdiction can jump through many hoops to circumvent them. This shows consent on the investor's part well enough, and capital formation regulations do not burden the investor at all, they are only constitutional because they burden the organization raising capital, who simply needs to do a cursory check - not an in-depth one. (level of depth is based on which regulatory exemption is chosen)

So as long as you separate concerns the SEC is satisfied.

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Post by einsteinx2 »

stonogo wrote: post #66
DANmode wrote: post #6

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Microsoft engineers use their offerings over OpenAI - their partner. That isn’t nothing.

It is approximately nothing, since lots of MS engineers use Apple products too.

Is it nothing though? How many Apple employees do you think use Windows? And how many Anthropic employees do you think use GitHub Copilot? I would assume the answer to both is approximately 0.

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Post by TurdF3rguson »

browningstreet wrote: post #222
Yizahi wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depend on the definition of the "product". For example some banal cloud storage in which everyone competes. And it's an "old" product, despite being invisibly improved behind the scenes, just like at any other provider. Google has pretty competitive storage AND they are fully abusing Android integration for AND they have pretty good bundling of that storage with other products, including, you've guessed it - LLM Gemi…

Google Drive is easily the worst of the desktop cloud storage options. It’s okay for Google Docs but not other files if that’s what you’re talking about..

I get 2TB (which I use) and AI Studio for $20, that's the best deal out there for me.
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